Emily Shevenock
Residence of New Hollows
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Poetry first published December 2009 in 2River
Assertions Gained from a Sensitive Influx, a Series of Sensations, and Detached Expressions and Promptings from the Imagination
[A tiny booklet; defining characteristics on the scenes of the wall and room space]:
Images notate references of the environmental climate, or a foreseen environmental proposition of an allocentric, societal observation re-marking selfhood. The climate simply alludes; contradicts; and/or complements, in variances of subjective through objective response, the scenes within an introverted, solitary self. Depending on color language and subject in a series, the latter sentence may fit in reverse, the image appearing first as the social workings and interpersonal impulses of the human condition, the inner self underlying. However fragmented or “fragmented” the idea of hollow becomes in relation to a binding by societal constraints, inherently it suggests allegorically the inhibiting of the “the artist” and her pulsation of medium. Though, this societal inhibiting should not entirely color, or become the sole factor or foundation intending the context of the book. In someway, there is no intention but to document “erratically” (“irrationally”)1 then transfer rationally into proper proportions. Proportions reason a project, changing radically from project to project, and through articulation—asymmetry is symmetry where Project 1 is in relation to Project 2, or vice versa. Although wholly contained in their own compartments, language and visuals frequently meld, becoming somewhat inseparable. I stress the melding of language and image just as I stress the document or photograph explained into further details by my inner response —which is not necessarily subjective—but an objective/detached understanding of unseen information2 in the environment combined with the understanding of the literal, outer, surface environment. More concisely, this combination reveals [objective] subtext into tangibility. Through additional surface definition to each image, the resulting visual qualities render a series into its complexity. Working with an image series until it “appears correct,” is described above, yet also intuitive. Enhanced through color language (within) or lack of color (without), the work is dealt through multiple series all at once, beginning spontaneously, sometimes predefining the message before taking any [given] image/s, though usually not. The only method always adhered to is the full frame/never cropping. Projects ultimately are layered, and can be viewed in sections, yet layer again into entire books or exhibits, including texts of short fiction and writings. The results form a cohesive, complete work in seamless fragmentation.3
Historical Relevance: Subjectivity or emotion might continually elude intra-historical relevance by appearing instead as objective expression through the immediacy of articulated perception.4
I have been writing for quite a long time. Halfway through what life has done yet not fixed, age XV, I used an inherited Japanese Topcon. It was taken to a camera shop once, then broke again and bordered useless. X X X. Artistically, I learned to use what I could, implying only that which allows itself to be used.
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Notes:
1 Please note the necessity of placing the erratic and the irrational within quotation marks. Set more singularly [without doing so], the terms are as fit as demeaning the entire rationale of hollows, as they are ever subject to [antiquated] prejudice/s.
2 The senses are alluded to here. I make no distinction as to how many; too much theory is simply cheating (theory out of context is sincerely thrilling). Also alluded, [and] in combination are the inter-personal and intra-personal.
3 Ultimately a narrative [cohesiveness] is formed, at times aesthetics and/or content associates, or not. Attempting to differentiate between confused or cohesive in a final work is absurd. To define subtle or “subtle” is the seam [opposite]. Clarification is the penultimate in seamless fragmentation.
4 Biography; specifically the artist’s— Please note historical relevance [goes] hollow. This again is allusion to the allegory, but even the allegory negated, it interrupts any intra-binding to rigid boundaries. This is a voluntary; intra-history pauses [during the project] then [perhaps or sometimes] repeats itself during other courses of the non-project.
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Other Shows and Publications from The Residence of New Hollows:
INVISIBLE CITY, ISSUE 4, DANGEROUS BODIES, JULY/AUG 2009
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
5 photographs selected from the essays “Baby Pillow” and “Bard Motel,” www.invisiblecity.org
Online magazine exploring the “contemporary theoretical idea” curated by Marlaina Read
POSTCARDS FROM THE EDGE, JAN 2009
METRO PICTURES, NEW YORK, NY
4 x 6 ink-jet print, origins of toned silver gelatin, titled Glasses from the series Markings
1/10 sold for Visual AIDS though the gallery auction
2/10 sold by gallery placing me in contact with art collector
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some really interesting images here. the piece grew on me as i went along and i enjoyed the mixture of styles. photographic not really my normal cup of tea but i liked being out of my comfort zone for a bit!
Interesting. It kind of reminds me of Alan Sokal’s work on Social Construction.
I always like pictures, which are completely different than mine. Keeps me looking and thinking.
Thanks for showing.
I’ll have to come back later to view again. Not sure what’s going on here.
visually stimulating, although I’m not quite sure yet what’s going on. Have to think about it some more.
But the text…. I do wonder – is it intentionally written so that it’s difficult to understand? it just seems way too convoluted, almost as if the intent was simply to sound “artsy”. If there was serious intent to communicate something, I just have to believe it wouldn’t take much effort to make it more accessible. But then maybe it’s not meant to be accessible? hmmm…
Carsten–Addressing “convoluted,” I write how I write, with regards to content and structuralism. I do not like the word “artsy”–not in relation to a description of the general essay– but subjectively, as a word. I wouldn’t mind if the word got lost from the English language altogether. But I do think you are entitled to an opinion bordering the same descriptive qualities the adjective “artsy” might possibly suggest…conjecturing on its replacement: Without proper thought, “artsy” replaced by the new word/description, might convolute original intentions where there are now two, completely differing implications.
“Before considering the question that is seemingly always the most immediate one and the only urgent one, What shall we do? we ponder this: How must we think? For thinking is genuine activity, genuine taking a hand, if to take a hand means to lend a hand to…the coming to presence of Being.”–Heidegger
“I do not believe in pure idioms. I think there is naturally a desire, for whoever speaks or writes, to sign in an idiomatic, irreplaceable manner.”-Derrida
Emily:
surely, it’s not a surprise that i love the story (if not the statement). Language is a well from which we both excavate that which is both of us and made for us and the arrangement of all things is the way we shift-shape the world into sense.If not through negotiation then at the least through the warped and warping characters of time and place and odd idiomatic thought. Pictures are vowels and valves that allow, in one meditative form or another, the opportunity to turn upside down all that came before us and all that which we imagine. Sing it right, sing it wrong, sing it as song.
What i love best with work, in any form of story telling, is that all, in truth, is a calculation, a strange and deranged arragement of addition and substraction. All things enter us and yes, miraculously, mysteriously, we shelter and sift through so that it appears that what we’ve appeased from both the world and our imagined selves is a kind of linguistic calculus: we arrange the world even as it arranges us, deftly.
As pictures, I love the indiscriminate acceptances of style and moment, of bashing and baking together both film ad video, color and monochrome, document and conceptual, for in truth, we are just as that: the world, and being itself, is constructed from an extraordinary arrangement of things that rhyme together and thinkgs that clash. In one sense, this story (for me) is as a metaphor for joy, for experienial thought, for negotiation and for the process itself of constuction. some of the pics are gorgeous and haunting and haunted…and even the more pedestrian ones serves as marks, as small memories of the act itsel of telling a story: an abacus of visual consonants and vowels….both Proustian and Marker-esque…
in truth, the story (for me) is as a static (in the sense of plates and not in a pejorative sense) version of Marker film. chris Marker and inanother sense, that extraordinary book ‘wisconsin death trip’ haunt this elegiac story. Marker, one of my heros, has ‘spoke’ long and deep about the nature of language and it’s negiotation with imagery: a wound really. so too this story is haunted by by the work of derrida and semiotics and the heady scent of Baudrillard…that wild sweep of velocity, reality and clucking lost things….
and in the end, what pastes it all together is just that: that we are dampened and dipped by all that neural shit that spins around inside our head and hives and to make sense of that is both a wreckage and a wrestling…and i celebrate this piece for that…
now, Emily, i have to also say that as a writer and photographer myself, i too found the statement humorous. I kind of cross-hatch between my beloved David Foster Wallace and Kathy Acker pitche against cliched art speak…I say this as someone who writes about art and helps artists (student and artists) craft their own statements….parced, I’m not sure that the essence of real structuralist theory is aptly applied here, but that is my great lament of the academy…and i say that as a member….so, i’ll tell you a story….Giorgio Agamben recently wrote about the loss,especially in art schools, of the talent to articulately write about both the creative process and the consequences of this; he blamed (i think reasonably) the introduction of one skill (the ability to write clearly and argumentatively) into a setting defined by the antithesis of written articultion: the production of images (art schools). I have to agree…obfuscation is not clarity just as structualism is not about the reistance to lucidity and elegance in argument….
you subjectivity is magnificently alive and beautiful and inspired…and what you wish to accomplish,structually speaking, is contained remarkably within the dance and architecture of our photographic images (and te embedding of the words)…but the statement is, oddly, inert….and I say that to you with the greatestof respect….as a writer, philosopher, photgraher and just plain old reader othings…
but thank you for sharing your vital and imagintive story….
i loved it :))
cheers
bob
bob – very eloquently put, much better than I possibly could. you said “obfuscation is not clarity just as structualism is not about the reistance to lucidity and elegance in argument” – exactly.
“We have here a reason why the comprehension of the concept cannot extend to infinity: we define a word by only a finite number of words.” –Deleuze
Mr. Black: I am not without humor. Should the lack of something non-humorous interfere with humor, call it non-written. Call the written: “oddly, inert.”
Mr. Black and Carsten: “Clarification is the penultimate in seamless fragmentation.” This statement rephrased: In argument, lucidity and elegance are the penultimate to obfuscation in structuralism. [When] structuralism fails, it fails not without origin.
“..Come back to us. However cold and raw, your feet
were always meant
to negotiate terms with bare cement.”
–paul muldoon
“dad, why do your poems sound so much like the flap at the bottom of the door”-my son, when he was 9
Emily, who is Mr. Black?…that sounds like the name of a certain Irish novelist writing bestsellers while he stalks away some time (http://benjaminblackbooks.com/ ) away from galloping his winter’d pen over the loom and loss….
I’m not THAT old my dear….
humor, that is in the end, all we have, is it not?…what with all our collapsing, colliding structured rhymes broke’-wide by time and tin, yes…., really…and well, indeed, the written surely is, inert-doddly, dead when compared with the words on the tongue, the pics on the flash of the addled head…
surely, a poet as yourself, sees that, clip;’dip of nape…
but alas, a lovely lift of a laugh, eye that’s the rub, thank god :))…
as to the “Clarification is the penultimate in seamless fragmentation.” well, god damn, both Nabokov and John Shade are rolling in their grave…..I trust even Foucault might break a smile over that….
i’m laughing and crying at that….so, i guess the point is moot, infinitely…
and who says we define a word by a finite number of words?….words are cages/castles but what lay inside them is infinite as well as being carriers of time…
as a poet, i suspect you know that and do not need Deleuze….
nor should you have to argue comprehension
laughter means more….just as the sound of a word is the weight of it’s meaning, just as the ghost of the image is more than the scribbled description of it on the page…
ok, gotta fly gotta fly….birdie bye bye :))
welcome aboard sister E…and please, no more fucking MR. Black…egads ;)))))))
running
b
The Deleuze quote could be negated this way:
We only use words in order to communicate concepts. Therefore a concept in itself could theoretically be infinitely comprehended if not shaped into words.
Thodoris! :))))))))
THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT…damn, u must be either a buddhist monk or Levinas’ love child! :))))
i was trying to be more playful to get a shimmer a-glow from Emily….Deleuze should have smiled more…i know, i once attended a lecture he gave…
i’m buying a whiskey for you and panos and civi when i get over…
and Emily, drinks on me when my wife and i get down to Bkyn late in the summer
b
Different picture chapters presented as a whole make an interesting narrative.
The statement reminds me of reading something I wrote which I thought was very good when I was a teenager.
What can you say. Discordant, orderly, random… original!
Just can’t figure out what’s going on betwicks me ears when
I view this. Thank you Emily and David AH.
Visually, I was mesmerized by your work, but as to the accompanying text I have no idea what I just read. Maybe your words just reach beyond my ability to comprehend. Maybe I just need some coffee. I will pedal my bike to Metro Cafe, drink some, return, and then read it again and see if makes sense to me this time.
I assure you, this is not a put down. I have no doubt but that you are brilliant in every aspect of your work. I just don’t understand. Although I love him, Faulkner can sometimes be a challenge for me as well.
I don’t mean the captions – I found them to be great fun, even when they made no sense to me for they did, as you suggest, meld image into language. I could feel the poetry of that melding.
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I have read and watched the whole piece twice, and still don’t get it. Must be dumb….Am I the only one?
I like many of the images a lot and often the sequencing is very well done. I can’t tell whether the text is some kind of meta joke or what. Either way, it doesn’t work. Worse than that, it seriously detracts from the overall quality of the piece. It goes from very, very compelling to borderline trite. Is that too harsh? I wouldn’t say it if I didn’t really like the photos. My advice is to read more. Maybe take a class from some writer you really respect.
Bob, I know you mean well but I think that was really out of line mentioning Kathy Acker in this context. Have you read Blood and Guts in High School? Can you imagine what Kathy Acker would could have done with a digital camera and Photoshop if she were good at it? That might have been the end of art as we know it. Why would anyone continue to bother?
Can you imagine what Kathy Acker would could have done with a digital camera and Photoshop if she were good at it? That might have been the end of art as we know it. Why would anyone continue to bother?……… a bit naive in terms of what happens/happened in the art world context…….. despite that we have that lovely lady http://www.orlan.net/ doing great stuff
As far as the essay goes it is very much dysfunctional but not in a positive way, sometimes it implodes within itself and loses the thread. Now if that is the intent it fails as there has been an effort made to bring it back to a sort of logical context via the supplied text, this unfortunately leads to a bored mediocrity. ……….
a bit naive in terms of what happens/happened in the art world context……
You say that like it’s a bad thing? Guess I’ve still got several feet in the literary world.
Yea you end up limiting the visual opportunities for yourself
Muddled confusion at it’s finest. I’m not entirely sure if I’d consider that a compliment or criticism.
yep
Well, when I went out to grab my bike and pedal to Metro, there was a hard mix of cold rain and snow falling, so I drove the 2.5 miles to get there instead. When I came back and again tried to read the text, I had as much difficulty trying to grasp what you are saying as I did the first time. It is possible that, had I been able to ride my bike and get the oxygen pumping through my brain, it might have made a difference.
For now, though, I fear I remain lost. I don’t discount the possibility that it’s just simply over my head. So I guess you need to decide whether you want to communicate with folks like me or not. Your photography does tell me that you have talent and I congratulate you for earning a spread on Burn.
Not having gone to art school or having read poetry extensively I assume I am missing something here. I have overwhelming faith in Bob and use him as a kind of guidepost. Having googled Deleuze I have learned something that I didn’t before, so thank you for that. From what I can gather a Nietschean, Freudian, Marxist perspective (not value statements just objective description). I do like the idea of transcendental empiricism, we need more of that.
From Wikipedia on Deleuze’s values, ethics and politics:
“In the two volumes of Capitalism and Schizophrenia, Deleuze and Guattari describe history as a congealing and regimentation of “desiring-production” (a concept combining features of Freudian drives and Marxist labor) into the modern individual (typically neurotic and repressed), the nation-state (a society of continuous control), and capitalism (an anarchy domesticated into infantilizing commodification). Deleuze, following Marx, welcomes capitalism’s destruction of traditional social hierarchies as liberating, but inveighs against its homogenization of all values to the aims of the market.” Sounds pretty cool, and matches an undercurrent of public sentiment.
Here we have broad ranging philosophical concepts with photography used a medium to observe and explore. Does it work? I don’t know. Could any medium have served in place of photography to communicate these ideas. Probably. Does it matter that Emily’s chosen medium is photography. Probably not. I guess here is where for me at least modern art and photography coalesce as when fresh water from mighty rivers find home in the seemingly infinite ocean. The mixing of higher ideas, intellectual concepts and philosophical rigor with the lower depths and radical humility of the collective unconscious. Somehow these opposites meet, clash, reject one another in polarity and finally integrate into each other.
This piece made me think. Assuredly a good thing. My personal criteria for a successful is essay is to make me think and just as critical to make me feel. I can’t say that I felt anything after viewing this piece, but that is my subjective experience. Maybe on a different day, with a different personal transit things may have been different.
Congratulations on being published on Burn and all the best,
Frank
Laughing my ass off. Frostfrog. I am still laughing as I write this.
W. Kimbell. Maybe! LOLOLOLL
Bob, you’ve met your match. Frank, I can’t even read past your first line. I can’t see for the tears in my eyes from laughing so hard. Whoops, I went back and read, […I use bob as a guidepost.] I am going to stop breathing soon…
Emily, I enjoyed the captions too. I have to admit this essay is a tough one for me. I did not see connections between the captions and the photos however. Just liked the captions. The photos confused me to the point that I was oddly, inert.
Burnians, what’s not to love?!?!?!
I thought number 9 was quite nice. Emily do you write to inform?
Encouraged by Lee’s answer ;) I woke up this morning and went through the whole thing a couple of times…
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….. ok, I’m starting to find some photos stimulating. There is also something about the sequencing that I intuitively like (and I say “intuitively” cause I still don’t get the essay).
The text is still beyond my comprehension though. Pretty much an alphabet soup for a non native English speaker….
Did anyone read the foot-notes? Also, where “historical relevance” reads near the end of the essay is simply the beginning of an artist’s biography. The 4th foot-note explains this, but I do not think there is a big enough/clearly defined space denoting the end of the essay and the beginning of the biography. The essay is simply an artist statement tailored slightly to The Residence of New Hollows– “which is not necessarily subjective but an objective/detached understanding of unseen information2 [see foot-note 2] in the environment combined with the understanding of the literal, outer, surface environment. More concisely, this combination reveals [objective] subtext into tangibility.” Perhaps everyone missed this vital point, yet the first sentence does the alluding…
The first sentence needs one small detail (one word) changed: “Images notate references of the environmental climate, or a foreseen environmental proposition of an allocentric observation and of SELF-HOOD.” The word “allocentric” already alludes to the “societal observation,” thus a non-intended repetitive error. The meaning is adjusted by replacing ‘societal’ with ‘Self-hood.’ ” This idea of “self-hood” and the “allocentric/societal” is weaved through the entire essay…
So Harry–yes, I write to inform, in this case. The written essay is not a short fiction piece, though it may contain qualities of prose-like behavior.
Bob Black: I find the prefix of Mr. a formal nicety not meant to improperly or artificially enhance your actual age. Does your wife like apricot cocktails? Or does she just like the late summer? How would I recognize her?
W. Kimball: My love and studies are with the English language. Its nearly certain I may come across as “alphabet soup” to the non-native English speaker. Yet, certainly the essay/artist statement is not needed to enjoy the visual work. Let us pray not.
Michael Webster: I may be naive in terms of what happened/happens in the art world–would you care to define this further? (If) I am naive about the mechanics of the art world outside of the art?–I doubt this. (If) I am naive about the art in the art-world–I feel a bit blessed.
Imnants: I do suspect I am permanently dysfunctional to some/many (but only in regards to my art.)
Thodoris: Nice Deleuze negation.
*Any playfulness does not preclude the serious intentions of all content.
Michael :))…
yup, i’ve read and LOVE most of what Acker published, not only Blood & Guts (which i actually read in highschool, ’cause at the time i thought it was cool for a 16 year old to carry a book like that, though it didnt win me any dates, alas), and she remains a touchstone for me…her literary howls and her life……Acker was a poet and a magician and a banshee of the highest order….i didnt mean that Emily’s statement resembles in any way Acker’s brilliant, cacophonous, blood-strewn prose, but that her statement was like a mashup of all the stuff that art-schools inject into their students: a mashup of the first order ;))….a little derrida here, a little structuralism there, a little foucault and a lot of piling up of language into a wreck…..that in mind, i did try, before running out last night to ‘deconstruct’ emily’s statement….(i did my time in a lot of philosophy/critique seminars) and i get what it seems like she’s after, which is this: it’s impossible to define the creative process and especially when using hollowed (halo’d) concrete finite blocks (words) to express the inexpressible (thoughts/encounters/language/emphemeral state of being)….BUT….one can say that much more clearly….:)))…sorry for the confusion
Frostfrog: yes….i’m with you all the way…
Lee ;’))))…..good god, if that is what my prose boils down too, then i want no crown at all….
gotta skip, big family day
b
Bob Black: as foot-note 2 suggests: “The senses are alluded to here. I make no distinction as to how many; too much theory is simply cheating (theory out of context is sincerely thrilling). Also alluded, [and] in combination are the inter-personal and intra-personal.” OR any resembling to any theory already existing, was purely coincidental, i.e. “too much theory is simply cheating.” This is, Documentary. Further reading supplementing similarities in the desire to be more informed about what was written in the Natural, will assume an after-knowledge effect.
*thrilling in the above commentary should be italicized.
Some of the quotes flying about this PLACE, are rather sublime.
You’re a reservoir, Bob.
Well, I remain flummoxed.
Paul, me too.
Back in English Lit 101 “politics and the English language” was required reading.
Trying to make sense of this is way too much work I’m afraid. I like a couple of the images, although the lack of what we normally consider technical quality is hard to get past.
I’m trying to stretch here, and will spend a bit more time with it.
Oh No! I wasted wasted all my years reading novels and poetry. The dark-room years from ’93-’06 possibly did damage to my technical skill/s. My new-found interest in art and the law is possibly doomed…
Were I an illiterate newborn practiced only in digital processes, I might concede to have a valid view-point. But I digress. I think I’ll look over some Latin and Lobjan for the rest of the day, then maybe get a haircut.
Emily:
it does not serve the vision of your work or it’s joy to denigrate…..one of the requisites of both writing and creating and, most importantly, sharing with others is the acknowledgment that your perspective and viewer’s perspective is just that, a shimmering glimmer of ephemeral time and not some grand or grandiose righteousness….shit, we’re all stuck in the throats of ourselves…there is no need to dismiss those who dont like/dont get…it’s cool…though haircuts are lovely things, indeed….
as one of the cats who spends most of his time here celebrating the work of others, as a lover and maker of things, i think it’s fair to understand the grief that that statement caused, and it’s not necessarily about foot notes at all (and yes, i did read the footnotes…i’m a diligent reader, im afraid too diligent at times)….
as for the “find the prefix of Mr. a formal nicety not meant to improperly or artificially enhance your actual age. Does your wife like apricot cocktails? Or does she just like the late summer? How would I recognize her?”…
well, i find the prefix Mr., a paternalistic and cloyingly denigrating term use to suggest either age or indifference or some hierarchical relationship which doesn’t apply here at all, unless you call me ……among colleagues, a pleasant bob/emily suffices…so please, call me bob….as for my wife, she prefers early spring, late autumn and while she loves apricots (who doesnt), she doesn’t drink…that’s my familiar duties….you’d recognize her by the deftness of her caring voice and the size of her heart…and yea, but the turn of her smile, which is quite a smile indeed…
running to take her to her show
pictures, even for a poet, can sometimes out trump the carriage of shackled sounds…..
again, i think it makes more sense to concentrate on the country of your visual story rather than the pronouncement of the statement….but, ok, David Foster Wallace spoke better of that than I have:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwS5pEfcQNk&feature=PlayList&p=4BDB4A7D023F97D9&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=11
all the best emily
mr. bob
No Grief here, Bob. I enjoy a good debate and dismiss no one’s opinion simply by disagreeing or debating otherwise. I like the prefix Mr. for its detached formality, and do not find it a bit paternalistic or cloying. But to each his own, and cheers to Freedom of Speech. I agree the country of my visual story should be the focus. But as I mention–and as you can see– the melding of visuals and language are sometimes–often–inseparable.
A pause should perform well, too.
My wife just got a haircut and it’s gorgeous. Or at least she is underneath it.
Bob, another great and true line of yours, “we’re all stuck in the throats of ourselves…”.
And your wife, Marina sounds utterly lovely.
Emily
With regard to the issue of tech quality.
While I can appreciate a certain amount of dis-regard or even contempt for the medium as part of an artistic statement, I fear that too often, it is simply lazy image making. Variations of “I know the quality sucks, but I really wanted it that way” were stock excuses I heard often during my years teaching photography.
Here are a few specific criticisms.
#5. I’m not sure why a fuzzy image due to camera movement seems to be OK as long as it is art. There are times when camera movement can enhance a photo, but this is not one of those times.
#9. Dirt and damage on a fogged and poorly scanned neg. Again, not sure why dirt, dust, scan lines, etc
are acceptable as art.
#10 This is a very intersting image. But does it really benefit from being so badly pixelated and turned into mush? This comment applies to many of the other images here.
#13 A delightful image, but appears muddy and blocked up and soft on all three monitors I have viewed it on.
#21 This looks like an copy from an old xerox machine. Again, how does this poor photographic quality enhance your piece?
#22 My favourite photo from this bunch. Nice photo, again, muddy and blocked up.
I may just go and shave my head now.
Maybe this is a better indicator for some http://www.2river.org/2RView/14_2/poems/shevenock.html
burns’ biggest Achilles heal is the sheer volume of unresolved essays that are posted. Eventually the audience will start losing interest both in viewing and commenting. Some of the essays need to be posted when they are fully resolved in the photographers mind otherwise all is just a muddle of text and images and a ……. wait until tomorrow situation.
I am guilty of this my first essay bum not as in person mute all done and dusted and it has not been altered since.
The second essay was a unresolved dismal failure, it was all over the place, images removed,some images were eventually cut from the book, orders changed all to accommodate the net, it was crap and of no benefit to the audience nor me ………………….. the intended media was always in book form not the net ( etrouko is a series of three books of 150+ images, etrouko I and etrouko II are completed and dummies printed etrouko III will be done within the month).
Back to the point, if stuff is not resolved and jumbled text is used to support what “might be” the whole caper not very viewer friendly. Sure comments, suggestions are made but it cannot lead to fruitful discussion or real conflict of ideals that something resolved like Roger Ballen’s essay There is a certain presence about a finished piece.
The single selected photo section is under utilised my image posting of was a lot more fruitful than my pesky/shitty last essay atleast the image sat comfortably as completed photograph.
The essay I should have posted is http://www.etrouko.com.au/im.htm
Oh my goodness. Hilarious. The Kentucky Derby party just broke up and I could hardly wait to get on line again and read the comedic goings on here on Burn. But over all what comes across for me from all the comments is that a picture is worth a thousand words, and when an essay tells a story without the thousand words it has truly been successful. Is that what a photo essay is for any of you here on Burn? It has been a topic of discussion with many of the essays presented–too much explanation, not enough explanation…Where is Civi on this? Panos?
damn, why do you make it so difficult?
why not leave the love-fest for difficult wordings and sweep the effort of thinking under the rug..
and just write how you feel?
Imants, thanks for posting the 2River link, that helps.
It can be that since English is perhaps my 3rd or 4th language I’m not able to grasp the writen text up here fully, it reads more like an instruction manual about how I, as a viewer, have to see the work in images posted, than anything else. The poems along with the pictures make a lot more sense..
I would agree with Gordon about the quality, but cannot sure, since it’s rather difficult to make sense of all of it as a ‘ONE’, as opposed to several pieces of one work, like it has been presented here, with this text instead of the poem.
Don’t know if any of this makes sense.
Interesting, but quite confusing. Most of the photographs seem more like missed shots recuperated with post-production, which I find worked only for a few of them. Although, I appreciate the artist statement, the message does not get through to me. This is probably due to my lack of knowledge of the poetry in the backdrop. In all cases, it is great to see different work, and the openness of burn to all types of work.
Lee..:)..i wasnt about to but since you called me out…
“Obfuscated code is source or machine code that has been made difficult to understand. Programmers may deliberately obfuscate code to :
1)conceal its purpose or its logic to prevent tampering,
2) deter reverse engineering or
3) as a puzzle or recreational challenge for readers.
It is a form (NEED) of security through obscurity. It is a form of security through obscurity.
Emily, congratulations for producing and opening sentence in your introduction that makes no sense: and then telling us that “the latter sentence may fit in reverse”!
I’m a native English speaker. It’s alphabet soup. If you asked five readers to explain what you are trying to say you would get five different explanations, so; if attempting an introduction to your work and motives, you failed.
I didn’t even look at the photographs. This is an unprecedented achievement on your part as I devour photographs like others do air.
Mike.
It is a form of security through obscurity.
————————————————
To understand better the NEED for security…in other words insecurity please go to the website and read the writers biography…
Im not gonna copy and paste because i dont need a lawsuit from a lawyer native speaker..
;)
ps:(let me add :) and ;) just in case)
Usually we argue that photographers do not need over intellectual artist statements to accompany their photos/essays..etc…
I usually carry an anti acid anti intellectual umbrella for this matter (or simply do need read those obfuscated newspaper style puzzles/artist statements)…
In this case it is all reversed…
I will gladly read the poem and the intellectual scripture and i will pass on the dressing..i will pass on the photos…I will congratulate the poet/writer/philosopher/comedian i will read and read again and i would suggest the author to look deeply into stock photography and find photos to accompany/dress the writings..
No reason to do both…
(yes i would buy Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche’s “latest” philosophy book but im not sure i would be interested in his latest Blurb photo dummy, Aperture photo book or even Burn essay..)
Emily Shevenock is a genius
ask any duck
Man, no wonder I can’t remember my password, it’s GCyj%QH4nPBM.
I like some the pictures. I am still, despite a love for words, a more lover of photos sans palabras.
I still see photos in the day of life that make my heart ache.
Those are the pics that I love the best. Those are the pictures series that make me silent and not say anything.
I don’t read the words because, like thees ones, they are not pictures. and I come to burn for photos.
Some really moving ones in this work (for me, and what else can it be?) but thank goodness (seeing some of the comments / which are fun to read / kind of like a tabloid news fix) I didn’t read the words. Argh the words! The words!
Bye everyone!
…is a genius
—————-
he he..it takes one to know one….
Most folks tend to believe that if things appear too complicated, too sophisticated, too obscure ,too hard to get, too “deep” are probably too smart (so they give them immediate genius status) ..
This probably has to do with their school days when all they had to do is open the Math/Algebra book in any page and stare at …Shock and awe…”If i dont get it (and im probably one of the smartest people around), then obviously thats Einstein(genius) stuff”..they think…
Intimidation?
Ever been in court? Ever heard a “good”, “genius” lawyer talk? I bet u dont get what they say either right? Intimidated? Felt for a second that its impossible to defend oneself without a “good genius” lawyer , right? well thats exactly want they want to think and feel…Intimidated….
Ahhh it takes a good actor to know a good lawyer…
I’m a genius, too.
We’re all geniuses
here.
We should get together
and throw
a
genius party.
All geniuses need to apply to their local apple store…
no recession for geniuses
;)
Jim would have loved this one………
Imnants: Thanks for posting the 2River poetry link.
Gracie: Although I have written sparse, bare prose and fiction, its far too late for this, now. I mentioned to a poet once that surely someday in my 50’s I shall return to this same sparseness, with the same but new qualities, I entertained in my twenties.
Gordon: I love the darkroom. Did I mention my first camera– and the dark-room years from ’93-’06? I believe I am repeating…and I would love to get back to the darkroom–so don’t get me wrong with the following link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESoSAjmLXaI
*Please note this in no way indicates a breakdown (or lack of a breakdown), nor is it an indicator of my current tastes in music, or commentary of the Artist/Musician in general. The link is with context to Gordon’s response, and, specific to.
*Please purchase this song, if, after sampling it, you find it to your liking. The albumn version is much better than the link above. (The) artist/s needs to get paid.
Mike R: Feel free to let Burn know about the one word in the opening sentence needing replacement. Thanks. (The sentence still reads clearly without the adjusment, so no worries if you wouldn’t feel compelled to help me address the micro-clarity.)
Panos: je suis toujours mort. Once again, repeating: Yes, the words are: “oddly, inert.”
Perhaps I am way too polite or cloyingly old-fashioned, so forgive me, but it seems there are no literary credentials, here, for attacking or abusing the written content.
E:
“Perhaps I am way too polite or cloyingly old-fashioned, so forgive me, but it seems there are no literary credentials, here, for attacking or abusing the written content.”
oi….ok….i shouldn’t but ok…..
have published and won awards for both my prose (stories) and poetry (u do the research, old-fashioned-l-y). have also published essays on both philosophy (foot-notes included) and art criticism. have done a certain Gulag-esque time in a certain place in a certain town in the fun state of CT, a certain school with certain teachers re-know-nd for their corridors and much hollow-halo’d ivy…yes, that school, though i really give a toss about bringing it up….
i’ve been on my side all along, as a poet, as writer, as a photographer, as a celebrator of this crinkling place, Burn…but at least you’ve torn down the veil….
you’re not ‘way too polite or cloyingly old-fashion’, you’re hilariously dégoûtant(1)…
1-“It is an opening that is structural, or the structurality of an opening. Yet each of these concepts excludes the other. It is thus as little a structure as it is an opening; it is as little static as it is genetic, as little structural as it is historical. It can be understood neither from a genetic nor from a structuralist and taxonomic point of view, nor from a combination of both points of view.”-JD
good god,
sorry:
god is seeking revenge, or it’s the fact i blew off the principle of right speach, but a unintended, but justly deserved slip of the freud-ian sang blood…
“i’ve been on my side all along, as a poet, as writer, as a photographer, as a celebrator of this crinkling place, Burn…but at least you’ve torn down the veil….”
was meant as
i’ve been on YOUR side all along, as a poet, as writer, as a photographer, as a celebrator of this crinkling place, Burn…but at least you’ve torn down the veil….
simone weil is a-ache now….surely
Emily..:)
one thing for sure..u got some serious balls (guts)…
I like u and all im bringing to you is:
I listen to Polly in my darkroom all the time. She freaked out Beavis. [Emily rules] “My words are war!” -d. boone
Catching up: David AH you have set a MUSE loose on this crowd.
Hurray for Emily!
“Perhaps I am way too polite or cloyingly old-fashioned, so forgive me, but it seems there are no literary credentials, here, for attacking or abusing the written content.”
Sounds a little bit like taking refuge to me. At the same time, it causes me to feel a little badly if I have contributed to your need to take such refuge. The only thing that I ever want to do with any artist is to encourage. As stated, I do believe that you have talent. I truly do. So just forge forward and don’t worry just because some of us, even the authors among us, those who have read War and Peace and The Holy Bible, King James Version plus the Compleat Works of William Shakespeare, Huckleberry Finn and Billy the Kid cannot grasp the meaning of all your words.
It doesn’t mean they don’t lack meaning or that we are illiterate, it just means that you write from a reference point that doesn’t quite come together for us. I, for one, would like to understand what you are trying to communicate, but so far I don’t.
I don’t think I’m getting senile yet, but maybe I am. How would I know?
Should read, “It doesn’t mean that they lack meaning…”
I think motorcycles are wicked awesome. An fyi and clarification of sorts.
Emily
I’m glad you’re still here.
Thanks for the link, although I must admit, I am not making the connection.
I am intrigued by what you are attempting to do here, otherwise would not have spent my time looking or commenting.
I loved the darkroom too, and had one continuously from 1964 until Jan 2004. When we dis-mantled the darkroom we had four colour enlargers, and two for b/w. I make my living making photographs and (understatement), have spent a lot of time in a darkroom. I use large format Epson inkjet printers to make prints now, and love them too.
As far as my “literary credentials”, I have none, except for a couple of years studying English Lit at Simon Fraser University.
My issues with image quality are certainly affected by my biases about what photographs aught to look like, and what constitutes “quality”. A lot of work I see from the “fine art” world seems to be in conflict with those assumptions.
As I wrote earlier, I can understand a certain amout of dis-regard, or even distain for the medium as part of an artistic statement. Sally Mann’s wet collodian photos are sloppily done, but she embraces the flaws, as do her fans. (I’m a fan, though not of this sloppiness). Avedons personal work often includes the edges of the seamless, distortions and other “flaws”. There are many other examples.
Getting back to your images here, I would love to hear your thoughts on this matter, in simple language please.
Gordon..:)…here in those lyrics lays the connection
You polish that thing
He looks her over more than me
But I wont let it get to me
Yeah, he can play with his machine
Night or day, rain or shine
Looks at her shape, not at mine
Im not complaining
I think its neat
Yeah, he can play with his machine
But all hes speaking and all he sees
Is just his motor bike, not me
No, I wont let it get to me
Cant stop thinking of his goddamn machine
Motor
Motor
Motor
Take that lady coasting west
Ride his motor over the edge
Yeah, I could break her
Break her, break me
But get rid of that goddamn machine
Yeah, I could break her
Break her, break me
Get rid of that goddamn machine
Yes, Im gonna break her
Think what you live
I fucking hate his motor bike
What a difference a day makes. Spent the day at the renaissance faire in Waxahachie, Texas and now hanging at the Best Western due to a flat tire with no one to fix it on a Sunday night. So lay back and relax and read the postings in my absence.
Panos, you are something.
Emily, you have done very well here with us all. It is nice to know that can all be so different and yet hang so well together. Whoops, used hang/hanging twice!
Frostfrog, you and I and many others seem to be on the same page still but I have enjoyed this discourse a bunch.
Emily, I agree about motorcycles.
Anybody know how to fix a tire? I found my spare. It is really small.
Thanks Panos, I must be pretty thick, who what is Emily trying to say to me here? (in simple language)
btw, I love motorcycles too, though don’t own one at the moment.
motorcycles, dark rooms, obsessions,manias, perfectionism…;)
hint:
replace the word “motor bike” (motor) with the word “darkroom” in the lyrics (poem) above.
Lee…its simple
method 1)
…first handbrake…find the Jack…then before u lift the car up…loosen up the lug nuts…once all nuts are loose , lift the car up…remove flat…replace with spare…tight slightly the nuts until the tire looks straight (in place)…drop the car..and Tighten the nuts once the car is on the ground..put the flat in the trunk and wash hands…
method 2)
call AAA
:))
easy…
Panos
OK
I should lighten up about tech quality.
BWT Panos, the offer still stands for messing with some of your files.
What I really want is a classic mid sixties 150cc Vespa.
Vincent Black Lighting or a 70’s Ducati SS at a far off second choice
Imants
http://www.retrovespa.com/
Gordon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7bXBOfgvJ4&feature=related
I’m disappointed about the low quality (some shot).
I find it no functional in order to tell the story.
ciao
sitting at an un/named cafe in an un/named country 3 lives ago smoking reefa and relaxing when an explosion erupedted from a long bearded fellow just behind.
his table, 2 drinks and a chess board flew, scattering pieces.
one dropped in my ashtray as his former couinterpart reeled in shock, torn from planning his (inadequate, single), next move.
“why the fuck can i not get a good game of chess”.. weird+beard despaired, kicked a chair and left.
i remained on the sideline and unmoved.
emily .. glad you found a game of chess ..
i much prefer books with pictures than books with words, although your text did make me smile more than once _ the jumble sale of photos invoked somewhat contradictory emotions, dark love, decay (perhaps), attempting to conclude order from chaos..
in any case / for me the photos bought a reation more tangible.. and the words felt achedemic, promoting some indifference.. enjoyed the poem imants linked.
gr8.
footnote#
native english speaker using knackered old norwegian keyboard where the symbols on the keys do not match the pixels produced on screen.
thats my excuse for bad grammer / schpelling and i=m sticking to it
Emily,
“Mike R: Feel free to let Burn know about the one word in the opening sentence needing replacement. Thanks. (The sentence still reads clearly without the adjusment, so no worries if you wouldn’t feel compelled to help me address the micro-clarity.)”
My usual stance to essays here is that if you can’t write something positive don’t write anything at all: so you must have hit a nerve.
The whole intoduction is pretentious and obfuscatory. I’ve read and re-read the opening two sentences and I think I understand what you are trying to say but I stand by my assertion that if five people were asked to explain your introduction you would get five different explanations.
What are you attempting to do here, communicate or intimidate? It is interesting to note that in your replies to posts here you communicate in normal, understandable sentences. Why do you feel the need to use such prose in your introduction? The whole introduction smacks of Blackism (laughing Bob).
At least Bob runs off at the pen consistently and not for effect.
Some time ago we here at Burn were treated to a photograph by Akakay, and a dissertation by him as to why a picture is worth a thousand words. It was witty, educational and a thorough triumph by a master of the english language. I do hope he re-posts it here.
I will, however, congratulate you, Emily, on opening up the discussion here on Burn. The one post limit has tamed discussion here somewhat.
Mike.
Emily, I forgot to mention that Akakay’s why a picture is worth a thousand words … consisted of exactly one thousand words. Impressive.
Mike.
there
isnt
a
one
post
limit
on
this
essay
Recession
is
over
“apply for a new credit card and start spending”
Goldman Sachs
There hasn’t been one on the last few essays.. we’re a bunch of ADDs.. ADD’s?? Blame it on English Lit classes I never took..
I am glad there is not a one post limit. This has turned into one of the most interesting and fun discussions attached to an essay yet – although I do worry that the artist might feel a little beat-up on, but she appears to be pressing on, undaunted, so perhaps I should not worry too much.
I thought I had contributed enough, but now that motorcycles have entered the discussion, I will comment again.
Motorcycles… I love them… I hate them…
I have been thinking lately that I might submit an essay to Burn, the one that I began to shoot over 30 years ago but never finished because I reached the ultimate finish – the death of the subject. The essay that I truly shot as an emerging photographer, the essay that I set aside, no prints made, for 30 years, never wanting to look at it again.
But now I have looked and it is good.
Funny thing, that love/hate I feel for motorcycles.
I don’t feel it for airplanes. I feel only love for airplanes – a love that I possess for no other machine – cameras included – ever made by human kind. Yet, I have crashed an airplane, I have lost more friends and associates in airplane crashes than people who live in a place different than Alaska would probably find to believe.
Yet, I feel no hate for the airplane at all. Only love.
But I do hate that motorcycle that took my brother away from me.
Yet, when I see a big Harley, on the road, I want to be driving it – because its as close to flying as one can come without leaving the ground.
Well, I had better shut up now. Too much work to do and it doesn’t help to waste my time commenting on Burn.
But it sure is fun.
Emily, carry on. Despite having given you such a hard time, I think I love you.
You don’t comform, that’s why, and if someone says to you, you are doing it all wrong, you say, f… u, (albeit in more genteel way) I’ll do it my way, anyway, and if you’re too damn dumb to understand my obliqueness, too bad for you. I admire that. Even though I’m too damn dumb.
Gordon: I assumed you were experienced in the darkroom; since 1964—it seems—and you must have gathered (known) I was not around. I have worked with many older photographers, while admiring all sorts of photography. I am lucky to have been the last generation learnt solely on traditional film; there was no such thing as digital until most recently. I only stress that my photos look exactly as they should. The [love of] process is detailed in my artist statement and a bit in my bio. Do I embrace flaws? This is not really the question—I readily disregard flaws, i.e. the “flaws” are not embraced so much as they are defined otherwise. Though, I can entertain an apparent flaw, surely, if what is meant by flaw, is a flagrant disruption not inherent on the negative or the digital negative. I want to print. In 1994, Sally Mann was the first photographer I became entranced with. Mostly it was work from At Twelve and Immediate Family. Gorgeous straight prints. I was never deterred from shooting and printing for myself. (These are mostly generalized statements without specific regard to New Hollows.)
Frostfrog: do you have another name? You must be a photographer, too? My questioning for the presence of any literary credentials (set for abusing the written work!) was never based on assumptions of an illiterate audience. A literate, well-read person can read something and have an opinion. Anyone can have an opinion. In lieu of derogatory commentary–misapprehended content “justified” into critique– ask questions. This string of commentary is a dialogue and discussion, besides, not an editorial review. I expect and suspect that the same rules of copyright and the Visual Artists Rights Act of 1990 (VARA) still apply…
Thank-you for your positive comments.
Mike R: David/Burn will be updating the first sentence shortly. Please note, again, this in no way changes what you may have already understood. I am simply pivoting a bit differently (from the first sentence) with the same idea.
Emily – yes I do, that’s why in their comments other posters sometimes refer to me as “Bill.” Click on “Frostfrog” and it will take you to my blog, where my full identity is exposed. It also has a link to my unfinished website. If you go there, you will understand the name, Frostfrog.
Thanks for asking.
Emily, when I suggested that you read more and perhaps take a writing class from someone you respect, I didn’t mean that you study any particular genre. What I meant to suggest is that you make a serious effort to read good writing. Read good writing in whatever genre you choose, whether it be fiction, philosophy, literary criticism, social satire, or literary hoaxes. Then you can compare your writing and see that it is not like good writing. At that point, the exercise is to question why your writing is not like good writing. Is it because you are uniquely gifted and have created a whole new style of good writing? Or is it because your writing is not good? Of course I’m on record as thinking your writing, at least what you have shown here, is not good. And let me emphasize that I still do not know whether or not it is a Sokal-like joke. I’m saying that it is not good either way, though it would be not good for different reasons. If you are serious, and I seriously hope you’re not, let’s just say that it is significantly worse than not clear. If it’s a joke, it’s just plain tacky.
I confess that I’ve missed a large chunk of the recent comments. Did you really demand to see someone’s literary credentials? If true, that would probably tip the scales of my guess significantly to the joke side of the register. And that paragraph that starts with “Frostfrog:”, goes on to say “misapprehended content ‘justified’ into critique” looks like further evidence. “Misapprehended content ‘justified’ into critique?” Seriously? If so, that’s a good place to start. What are you trying to say? What is that sentence supposed to mean?
But hey, I’ll play along. Like a brown skinned man in Arizona, I’ll show my papers officer. I’m a high school dropout who has been a paperboy, mowed lawns, flipped burgers, hoed beans, baled hay, worked as a woodsman, a carpenter, a fisherman, a factory worker, a long haul driver and photographed kids on ponies in the greater long beach metroplitan area. But none of that really matters, does it. You don’t need to be a weatherman to tell a warm spring rain from a February snowstorm.
I do like your visual sense though, particularly how you’ve managed to succeed with several radically different visual styles within the same essay. I think the essay could use a bit of editing, but overall I like it very much. Honestly, if I didn’t, I probably wouldn’t comment on the words. Maybe (maybe?) I’ve been overly harsh, but the prescription is a good one. And maybe you’ll even find that your writing is different from other good writing because it really is that good and that I, and most everyone else here, are just washed up pony photographers who’ve forgotten the smell of our own horseshit. I don’t think so, but I do encourage you to make that argument. Not here, not with the likes of us, but with good writing.
Michael Webster: I explained its too late for that (writing the way you think I should write). I said: someday in my 50’s I will re-entertain the same sparse and bare prose I did in my twenties. Until then, I find your comments utterly rude. Its clear we don’t have the same tastes in literature. None of that would have mattered, had you not chosen to become verbally abusive in your commentary.
Hi Emily,
Congrats on getting your work on Burn, but regarding the essay I agree with Michael Webster. The writing seems needlessly convoluted and full of jargon. Whether or not this is deliberate (a post-postmodern gesture or joke) makes no difference to me; I just don’t find apparent obfuscation or lack of clarity interesting or aesthetically pleasing. Regarding the visual essay, there are some interesting images, but again the writing (for me) is a distraction, particularly the slots given to single italicised words in square brackets, made even more precious, and less interesting, by the overlong time-interval each is granted. Just my opinion of course, and, once more, my congratulations, and I wish you the best with your endeavors.
Speaking of motorbikes though (and photography), this came to mind: http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/index.html
Check out her Chernobyl diaries.
Not sure how I’m being verbally abusive? Certainly not purposefully. I’ve seen plenty of examples of people making post-modern gestures (nice way of phrasing it mark g) that read similarly. I’ve done it myself. But yes, I understood that I would come off as unduly harsh if you were serious. I honestly didn’t know. My advice about seeking good writing is good advice though. And sincere. I don’t mean it as an insult. It’s nothing to do with how I think you, or anyone else, should write. It’s a big part of how most writers learn. Good writing is a much harsher critic than I, true, but a much better teacher as well.
Anyway, sorry. I meant well.
“I said: someday in my 50’s I will re-entertain the same sparse and bare prose I did in my twenties. Until then, I find your comments utterly rude. Its clear we don’t have the same tastes in literature. None of that would have mattered, had you not chosen to become verbally abusive in your commentary.”…… Emily that it is a dead end comment and reduces your audience, better to re explain what you are driving at.
Hello Emily,
I think this work is really great,the writing and the photos go together really well.
thank you for sharing your work….
A list of literary magazines: http://www.newpages.com/literary-magazines. For the emerging or mid-career writer and/or poet. Its true I need to submit more and buy a printer for those that don’t take online submissions.
EMILY…
i am vaguely aware that you wanted a word change in your opening paragraph, yet i have no clue which one and changed to ?? my email to you on this issue has so far gone unanswered….please let me know one way or another, and i will make the necessary change..
cheers, david
Emily,
Sorry but i’m in the urghhhhh camp on this essay. Much of it has been said so I won’t reiterate.
I have reviewed the piece probably six times at this stage since published, deleted my comments prior to posting on at least 3 of those occasions, but no matter what angle I view from, I just can’t get it.
I sincerely hope some day I’ll understand. There is something there I suspect. It is however, at present, just too far off for me. Then again I suspect your intended audience wouldn’t be of my “type” (hah! whatever that is – can’t believe I came to that conclusion or description – thought I was open for anything).
I did read the text footnotes, subnotes, italicised, bracketed, etc…, etc…, but even on subsequent viewing I find no emotion, no decipherable story, lack of particular purpose, hard to understand, and generally – yeah, I just don’t get it.
I appreciate it may also be hard to get across what it is your essay was/is trying to say in words but for me (and i may be quite wrong) I should be drawn by the content – imagery and text.
But, with that all being said, from what I read in the totality of the comments – some people do obviously get ‘it’ and fair play to them – I salute them and their level of understanding/acceptance.
But, having not gotten the piece I do have to say that I am so pleased that your work has been published and showcased here on burn, and feel it is most worthy (even if i don’t get it) :) – congratulations.
Much respect and peace to you,
Cheers.
Hi David–I did email you–yesterday in fact. An RE. I just forwarded you the email…so you can see for yourself. Please post here again should the mail not find its way to you (again).
Tommy: Peace.
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emily – i just told the chess story to a friend..
besides my comment is already © bowen 2010
..
moral rights exerted..
;ø)
Bet you’re a barrel of laughs to get stuck in a lift with.
• The artist in residence(Raelene) at Bullamakenka and her sponsor Mick is proposing a collaborative artwork with Greg from “Eternity Stud”……….. an eclectic appropriation with a smack of irony all in a re contextualised mix called “Podges’ Hodge”
Night, night Emily.