Is this open to everyone or is it just for the workshop participants?

David, wish I was there. Maybe next year.

Benjamin, just had a quick look at your website: like Marcin I really like your work – will return to it later.

Good light,

Mike R

What’s it like to party with Gilden? He seems quite a tough one when interviewed!

Thanks for the nice comments. Some of the work is a bit dated, I have been working on redoing the site this last week. This is the rough beta version.
http://qufoto.com/display/index/brasmussen

Marcin, the Faroes is incredibly expensive for tourists. The hotels are outrageous, as is the transportation. But you can get a ferry from Scotland, Norway or Denmark that is much cheaper. And let me know if you want to go and I will get in touch with some photographers there who might be able to find a place for you to stay, which is the way to go.

It is about the most beautiful place you can ever go though. And the government loves trying to get press, so just call them proposing a story and they will hook you up.

I am half Faroese and was just living there for the last year, and it was a great place to work. I am in the New York area for a couple of days though and would love to come by for the fiesta.

Benjamin

BOB…

i am expecting Marina, Dima and you here for the final workshop…of course, by then there will be a smoldering hulk of what was once dah, but that is just the way it goes…

cheers, david

DAVID :)))

do not worry, we WILL be there for your final workshop!!!! :))))))and we’ll be cheering on your workshop students with mucho love!!! :)))

…i’ll call u next week once you’ve had a little “R&R” between workshops …and in 2 weeks, we’ll feed you lots of hugs, love…and oh yes: ICE WINE for you too is coming…(at long last) !!!!!!…

we will take you in whatever shape you’re in ;))

hugs
running
bob

p.s. love from marina (we were talking about you last night after meditation)…

Wish I was there too….. Hope you all enjoy it and get it under control!! :D

Have fun!

Ana

Marcin, you are a photojournalist.

Michael,

unfortunately I puplished nothing in press, so I am not photojournalist. I had some publications in cataloguses and some other piece of papers but nothing in press.There was the time when I almost not started working for press, but i changed my mind.

unfortunately…

Hi David:
Is Julio Muñoz from Trinidad Cuba, Rosa, the girls, dog, horse, very well after 2 big hurricanes. Luckily Trinidad suffer just a very little damage comparing with some part of Cuba where the destruction was total .
Trinidad, beautiful like always; waiting for you for the photo workshops. I have this year 2 with the british Keith Cardwell, see my site http://www.trinidadphoto.com ; as you can remember this site was your idea.
Best regards:
Julio Muñoz, the best photographer in Trinidad de Cuba (unless the only one………….)

Julio

Good to hear voice from Trinidad, one of the most beautiful places of the world and the best light for photography!
This is sad what you say about hurricane’s damages in Cuba. I wish you all the best!

Btw; when I was In Trinidad I stayed in Mariela’s casa on bolivar street I see on the map from your website it is very close of your casa.

DAH

AM very much looking forward to this one..one of the rewards of living in NYC..excited too to see ANNA B’s work..and hopefully to see GINA there. I know KELLY is coming as well, going to be a good night..Am a bit happily stunned at the guests EUGENE AND BRUCE..

LASSAL CARRY OVER from the other thread..

keep wondering if you familiar with french artist Sophe Calle who works with the written and photo narrative?

To save time, some cut and paste, disjointed notes..

Her work frequently depicts human vulnerability, and examines identity and intimacy. She is recognized for her detective-like ability to follow strangers and investigate their private lives. Her photographic work often includes panels of text of her own writing.

For her exhibit ‘Take Care of Yourself’, Sophie Calle asked 107 women, chosen for their profession or skills, to interpret this letter, to analyze it, comment on it, dance it,sing it – all in the form of texts, of photographs and videos. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jun/16/artnews.art

And in another..

Ms. Calle’s exhibition begins with a narrative covering 92 days leading to the end of a relationship. Viewers lined up to “read” through what the artist describes as her most profound personal pain. Each photograph is unsentimentally stamped to mark that day and laid out like a calendar of regret. The exhibition spans over 20 years worth of photography and installations.

a photo here:

http://www.acrstudio.com/projects/word/paris/calle_lesdormeursb.jpg

BOB

You and Marina were in one all night long dream last night..you had just come to visit, crazy stuff, we were eating old books that had turned to dust and I was showing Marina how I fly with just my meditation scarf extended in my arms for loft..am outright exhausted from it this morning, but holy sh.t..looking forward to your stay.

the blog is not banned anymore over here in China…
—————

I am sure Panos can single-handedly fix this anemone…Er, anomaly, quickly! ;-)

Tibetans are now under drastic police and army surveillance, with the ensuing arbitrary abuses, imprisonment and death, part of the arsenal of any self-respecting stalinist regime.

so….. once again…

fuck the china republicans republic of the CHINA PEOPLES
OF CHINESE CHINA…. WHATEVER the new official name is…
( in greek villages they say : “you can change your clothes or your name, but you cant HIDE…)

we are still WATCHING YOU ….
GO KILL SOME MORE MONKS …. that will be the great
challenge after the olympics mockery…

Less is more…

so, go kill some more MONKS… FEEL BETTER…!
god damn it… get outta here….!

ps:.. please … shows us your democratic balls.. and BAN our blog
again… TURN THE LIGHTS OFF… STAY IN THE DARK…

BITCH!

ps: CAN anyone help me translate all the above in CHINESE please ?

PEACE FOR TIBET….! ( tired begging them for peace .. )
fuck it … im out..

( Katharina , nice to hear you are free to post.. )

Herve,
I simply said that the blog is currently not banned ……It’s a fact, can’t help it …. how you “read” this…. is up to you. It was not meant to be a pro/contra Tibet- China argument.

ALL

Wow. I just added them up (ok, so I’m a little OCD)…in the time since I’ve started reading here (just before the self-portrait “general” assignment) there have been over 5,500 comments…amazing!

I said back then I was jumping in….to do so fully, I think I need to present answers to some of the questions that DAH posed to Guido (and that Erica has subsequently posed to me, hopefully she will see them when she’s done eating dust-books and comes down from meditation-scarf induced flight).

So this long post is that background….feel free to skip to the end, as I can be long-winded :)

I have been in and out of photography since the late 70s/early 80s, when in high school I bought a used Pentax K1000 and 50mm lens and taught myself how to use it. For those who don’t remember it the K1000 was a workhorse, a completely manual SLR that was built like a tank. Anyway, I learned some basic technical skills with it. At that time, I always wanted to be good at art, to be able to create things of beauty, to express myself, but I wasn’t very good at the usual art forms…drawing, painting, etc, and I gave it up. I didn’t really have an exposure to photography as art, and never pursued it (much because of the early frustrations of bad images and the cost of film/processing….).

I went through the rest of college taking pretty decent snapshots (although I looked at one old album the other day, and see a few shots that show promise, if only I had known what to look for…..).

During and right after college, I spent much time trying to “find myself”… including some years waiting tables and working sound for bands and working in a recording studio (I’m also a frustrated musician – would love to play an instrument well, but only play drums badly…but I do have a good ear and can work a mixing/recording console pretty well). Finally about 6 years later I completed my degree, got married, and got a “real” job. During this time, I pretty much abandoned photography. Over the years my professional career as an IT/information security expert has grown, and I am currently consulting and speaking to pay the bills.

In the last year or so, I’ve become re-acquainted with photography, mainly because of the desire to be able to capture important family events, and, (more recently discovered), the still-present desire to be able to create art…and perhaps the realization of a bit of ability beyond my earlier failings with ink or paint…

So we come to motivation….I want to be able to create good images…images that express me, that evoke feeling….I can do this in a limited way now, but I feel it is a bit random, perhaps only by luck. But I think there is more than luck underneath, and that with practice and guidance I can begin to consistently create something beyond good snapshots…one of the quotes I have from the blog I like is when DAH said

“having a picture of drama is not necessarily having a dramatic photograph…two totally different things…”

I want to be able to create dramatic, powerful photographs. Not as a career, or even to make money, but to satisfy my inner desire to create…

So I suppose that is the long term goal…I know I have a loooooong way to go on that one ;)

My short term goal is more specific….I want to create a portfolio so that by next year when/if I can attend one of DAH’s workshops, I can submit it proudly and be confident that I have what it takes….or, of course, to learn along the way that I will always just be a taker of good snapshots, and know this and be satisfied with it…

I have posted a few images along the way, but have now re-organized somewhat and put together a web page where they are accessible…I will continue to update as I work and go along, and ask for critique and suggestions to improve…

Deep heartfelt thanks to all of you who post and respond for welcoming me in to this great party, especially to our incredibly generous and gracious host, Mr. Harvey…I can see wonderful things happening, and want to be part of it…to contribute, and not just be “along for the ride”….so I will do my best in this regard…

good light to you all…

Andrew

Looks like another fun party—anyone have any frequent flyer miles they want to share?:))?:))

SISTER ERICA! :))))

wrote you a letter this morning :))…funny about your dream because I gave you lots of Metta thoughts last night during our Metta meditation (this saturday, Marina and i are doing a whole-day Metta meditation retreat!). I actually sent Metta to you and david and patricia and panos and lisa SPECIFICALLY last night (maybe that’s why we were in your dream) and to the whole blog in general :))…TRUE!…and we’re excited about coming…i havent thought that far ahead, ’cause im still wrestling with the edit of Bones and want something that will knock people’s socks off…anyway….send me ur number and i’ll callu next week…also, marina and i thought (if you wanted) we could also help with your photo shoot if you need assistants :)))…

ANDREW B! :)))..i love any comentator that writes more than i do!!!..it keeps the pressure off ;))))…Im disappointed that Herve doesn’t write long comments anymore (what’s up Herve,?)…but, i’m so happy that big-daddy Akaky is here to juice up the Tolstoy-days of lengthy comments and that David (madman) bowen does his proustian best too :)))…or would that be Eric E who usually writes wonderful long comments as does Sidney when we can coax him out of the NW Rainy stupor ;)))……so lenghty or not, write write write away :))))…

Herve: why are your comments so sure now?…i miss their length…:)))

TIBET/CHINA:

wow, this blog is always interesting to read…too bad it’s not in a bar! :)))

all i can say is that im doing a metta meditation and that, (a buddhist sanctuary of monks is housed right next to our apartment and every morning i pass monks (old and young) doing a walking meditation) in the end money and oppression cannot last forever…

gotta run

Wish I could have been at the NY workshops…

Have fun with the slideshows and enjoy the fiesta all;-))

Best, Edward

DAVID

(Posted this on the previous thread before I noticed this new one).

Try taking a look at these and see if they are any closer to what you think I should be trying to do. The same general topic- Asian Vancouver. They were originally shot in February but are part of a huge batch that I am still editing. My own view is that it’s some of my best work to date (other than landscapes which have been my main thing for decades) but I’m curious to hear what you think:

http://www.telcomplus.net/satkins/photo3.html

(Still best seen in Safari, don’t ask me why, but not so terrible in Firefox or Explorer)

oh i just fell off my chair laughing at HERVE’s remark that panos could fix the china un-ban of this blog single-handedly…

AND THEN PANOS stepping in and rising to the occasion!

i love you both!!!!

peace
(and yet again having a beer)

HERVE…ALL

i am laughing , or rather WE are laughing …”we” being yours truly and Anna B. who is looking rather stunning at the moment in the late afternoon light streaming through my window…do not worry, she must go shoot soonest..in Spanish Harlem…

anyway, we are laughing at what you said about Panos quickly shutting down our forum’s now free exposure to China!! funny!!

yup, one or two of his China diatribes and we will be cut off forever….

Panos, if you are reading this, and i have no doubt that you are, PLEASE let us have access to China….

just think VENICE BEACH in China!! we can be like NEW INFORMATION for so many Chinese photographers who just need to be exposed to YOU (no pun intended)to get them going and start a revolution that will free them from their Communist/Capitalist dual identity crises and therefore SET YOU FREE from having to be the watchdog of Chinese aggression worldwide….

think about it girls and boys….i will accept whatever decision you make regarding our foreign relations stance in either China or any other country…

world peace!!! david

SIDNEY…

yes, many of these are much closer…but, i would like to take you even further….not to take away any of the ideals you have already set up , but only to enhance them…

are you ever in New York?? it would be much easier if we could somehow meet…and i will be traveling again across country soonest, so maybe there is another rendezvous zone…

cheers, david

DAVID

I will be that fly buzzing around everyone’s head at the slideshow on Friday night. Eugene Richards. Wow! And Bruce “in your face” Gilden. And 12 excellent photographers who have been fortunate enough to be taking your loft workshop. Triple WOW!!! Sure hope there will be some snaps taken & shared here on the blog. We will ALL be there in spirit.

David, could you please give this thread a title so others can find it better? Thanks.

ANDREW B

I’ve just visited your beautifully designed web site and want to share some of my responses.

I find your Gypsies portfolio the most engaging, especially when you use unexpected POVs and DOFs. For me the most effective images are the most abstract…like Image #1. I can hear the click of her castanets, and the colors and composition are stunning. I love the gesture of the dancer in Image #7 but find the audience distracting. If it were my photo, I’d use Photoshop to select the dancer and then blur and lighten the background so she would stand out better. Next time I’d try to use a lower f-stop. Image #6 is well captured and composed. I love her “come hither” look! I think Image #8 could be stronger if you went in even tighter on her belly and the swirling scarf, but I admit I am biased towards tight well-filled frames. That’s pretty much how I work myself. And can you convert Image #5 back to color? This is a series that cries out for color!

I guess all of my comments show my bias. Each of us has our own eye and way of seeing, so, Andrew, take what I have to say with a grain of salt ;=)

You obviously feel music and dance in your soul. I encourage you to explore this subject. Maybe at a dance club…

Patricia

DAVID

You and I were writing & posting simultaneously–not the first time!–but PLEASE don’t sweat getting the contact sheets to Ed and me. Of course we look forward to seeing them but there is NO rush. You’ve really been on a tear, my friend. Please let next week be a bit of a chill-out time. Heck, you’ve got another loft workshop staring you in the face. I know you love them but they must take a tremendous amount of energy and attention. So next week, just CHILL…

Patricia

SIDNEY…

you are a gentleman….i will give you as much time on line as i possibly can…and if my travels take me to Seattle, perhaps i can boat on up to Vancouver…

PATRICIA…

well, of course, i knew you would say that…we will get the contacts out to you nevertheless…

hugs, david

ok… peace and love for China… MY SINCERE APOLOGIES…
and to prove my regret… i am moving to CHINAtown here in
L.A… as soon as my finances will allow it…

PLEASE, TO ALL… COUNTRIES…
LET THIS BLOG FLOW FREE… ITS only photography…
i know, i know…
i said couple things wrong here and there…
but who am i anyways..
my bad… please let me keep my job on the blog…and please let us
transmit free all over the world…
just photography
just photography… thats all we care…
please let Venice Beach links to OPEN free all over asia and or
the pacific islands…
so AS ALWAYS IM JOKING…
I got Cathy all worked up yesterday joking,
today is China… tomorrow never knows..
ok… off for some CHOW MEIN & Beiijing beef with broccoli
from the local “Panda Express”…
love you all..

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=bM_vLk1I6G4

David Bowen,

just to carry something over from the last thread, because I think nobody reads old threads once bnw one start, they just carry old onversations over to new one (organic nature of this great place), I have totally reworked the Park Life set in terms of color to match Riverside, as I have been thinking for a while of intergrating both into one project. And Im sort of obsessed about consistency of editing (never mix b/w and color, always process the same way).

David A. H.

It was a very valid point about a change of style. The way I see it, while Riverside might be a totally different style from the b/w stuff, Parklife is intended to be a bit more like the family work in that if you look at it again when you have time, theres a strong presence of my family in it. Many of the photos are “streetish” but more than half of them focus on my family. Its in color but I think it resembles HSH in the intimacy a bit. The challenge would be to organically mix them with Riverside into a single sequence, having a contrast of the detached with the more intimate. Do you think thats possible, do you see a way to do it? So far I have the project segregated under the heading “Marooned”

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jinju/collections/72157606643568147/

Also, David, I will be in the US next summer, so perhaps if it would be OK I could drop by NYC and see you. I wonder, do you have any events like this planned for next summer, like in August?

and thank you ALL,
for the venice links tech feedback…
and especially i wanna thank “YES”…..
the most positive of all positive…..yes, simply yes..
thank you “YES”..
Ana Y..:-)

Anna B… GO GETTEM GIRL…
spanish harlem it is… stay calm and focus…
go LA

Lee, this not a photography blog! this is ROAD TRIP, DAH blog. Anything goes… As and when we wish. TIBET on road trip is OK.

BOB…

I talk too much already! ;-)( “war photographer” is still going on, BTW)

Anton, David, Anna (a class act), you made my evening…

LISA H

Sorry to disappoint you, but the “City of Subdued Excitement” is the quasi-official name of Bellingham, Washington State, where I live… and has nothing to do with Asians! And not much to do with me. In fact, aside from many foreign students mostly studying English at our local state university and community college, there are not many Asians in Bellingham compared to either Vancouver, 50 miles to the north across the border, or Seattle 85 miles to the south. Once a logging, fishing, and mill-town on the shores of northern Puget Sound, Bellingham (85,000) has become a fast-growing “amenity’ town, popular with retirees, dot-com’ers, outdoorsy types, and well-funded refugees from the big cities looking for more nature and a slower pace of life while still having some semblance of “culture” (there are for example half a dozen large bookstores here and our public library’s circulation figures are off the charts for a town this size). Other salient features: a large marina for power and sailboats, mountain bike and hiking trails, sport fishing for salmon and crabs, sea kayaking, nearby access to snow-capped Mt. Baker (a prime ski-snowboard area), and the vast forests and jagged mountains of the North Cascades. There are drawbacks, of course. The climate is a lot like the west side of Tasmania:cold rain and grey clouds much of the year. And despite Bellingham’s vaunted pride in its ‘Arts’ scene, I find most of it pretty second or even third rate. Worst of all, good places to eat out are really lacking compared to even Seattle, and are not even to be compared with Vancouver, which has some of the very best ethnic food (especially Asian) in the world, and generally at reasonable prices. Not only is the excitement subdued in Bellingham, but so are professional job opportunities and salaries. Unlike housing prices, which are as high as Seattle! So I sometimes call it the “City of Subdued Expectations.”

One of the names the Asians gave to Vancouver is “Salt Water City” and the city itself is about 45-50% Asian at this point. Many of the surrounding suburbs are similarly dominated by Asians: Chinese in Richmond, Koreans in Coquitlam, Punjabis in Abbottsford, and the whole ethnic stew in Surrey. Chinese are the largest group in the metro area, but there are also major populations of Filipinos, Koreans, Vietnamese, Punjabis, and Japanese. (Some white people too!). There are two separate “Chinatowns”, the old one east of downtown Vancouver, and the newer suburban one in Richmond where all the money is.

As for Asian culture’s inscrutability… personally, I never found it particularly inscrutable. The Japanese, who I know well (having lived and worked there for 20 years) are among the most predictable (and reliable!) people on earth. Generally I would say they are sentimentalists who fear disorder and uncertainty. Koreans tend to be a bit more volatile and full of surprises, but also somewhat more passionate… yet still quite understandable if you learn their own frame of reference. I have had somewhat less contact with Chinese, but they seem to come in all colors and flavors as befits a melting pot continental nation… (How’s that for gross ethnic stereotyping?).

The onion metaphor is a good one for looking at any culture, I think… but is probably just as apt for Asians trying to understand North Americans or Australians.

Now if somebody could explain to me the mysterious motivations and dreams of the Australian female, I might have some more useful insight into humanity.

Good onya, Sheila…

ANDREW B

Yes,the male dancer works well in color. I concur with DAH on his assessment of the image of the drum circle through the window. That is exceptional! Other favorites for me are the boy with wet hair holding a shiny object in his hands (b&w), the misty view of the gazebo in the woods (b&w), the stark tree (b&w), the crowd of racehorses rounding the turn, and your reflected self portrait.

I anticipate seeing more of your work, Andrew. “Festival Latino de Lexington” should be a great opportunity for you! Please share with us what you find there…

Patricia

LISA H

Me again. After that long-winded reply, I re-read your post and realized you used the word ‘impenetrable’ as opposed to ‘inscrutable’… possibly a subtle difference, but also maybe a very important one, so what I wrote may have been quite off-target.

I would put “impenetrable” this way: Walls within walls within walls. And no way for the stranger or casual observer to pry open the door to the inner areas behind those walls…

Of course, there are ways in… but none of them are quick or easy. One way that can help one get inside is language… especially the written language, and that means Chinese characters which China, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and Vietnam all share as part of their heritage, the way Latin and Greek are the common heritage of Europe. These languages are very different than English and a traveler can pick up a few words and phrases, but to really communicate in them, to think in them, takes years of hard work (do you agree, Katharina?).

Marrying into a family can help… it gives you an instant web of relationships in a heirarchy.. which are not voluntary ones, but based as much on obligation and ritual as personal inclination, but that can also be positive, and that is certainly an important part of what being ‘Asian’ means (do you agree, Rafal?)

Working or studying in a total-immersion environment can help… because I went to graduate school at a Japanese university, and then worked in a college department where I was the only white face, I got to gradually experience all kinds of things I couldn’t have anticipated. Even for an American, I was once an extreme individualist-outsider-loner, but I learned to treasure many aspects of the group solidarity and group consciousness of working in a totally Japanese organization.

Does all this have anything to do with photography? I think so… indirectly at least, because so much of penetrating the walls has to do with allowing oneself to ‘see’ things one didn’t see before… the imagined subject fades into the background, the background comes forward, something other than an object becomes the subject…

All this is a meditation on your image of the layers of the onion…

Sidney,
…….takes years of hard work……
—-
It’s the never ending journey !

Yes, DAVID,

ANNA B. is stunning. I’ve met her and agree :))

ANNA B. I can’t wait to read your comments about the DAH workshop experience. Hope you are enjoying.

SIDNEY

A truly elegant explanation, ‘cos yes I did mean ‘impenetrable’

Its just Asian cultures I find tougher than most to get ‘inside’ of, I guess its because I feel that there is always a level of restraint and order and sort of a disconnection with the earth that totally befuddles me…

And yes, I do believe this has an enormous amount to do with photography- Katharina’s work is a ‘witness’ to this exact incomprehension on my part, cos she unlocks the much more tumultuous and ‘earthy’ part of the culture.

As for the motivations of some Aussie chicks, well I could say for that you will have to listen to ‘Khe-San’ by Cold Chisel, but for my own personal motivations, I would just have to say I have an overwhelming desire to understand the world…

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/273152main_16006.gif

Thanks all for mentionning Obama, which validates my talking about Tibet this morning (hey, Obama rhymes with Dalai Lama!).

Katharina, if you ever come again to Bangkok this next winter (anyone of course), I hope we find the opportunity to meet. I remember you talking about “face” before, and it’s funny, but I find that I hear the frustration of not “getting beyond” more from western women than men, though face is not really gender related and permeates all ranks.

yet, could it be that the fact that asian societies are heavily male-dominated (though women are hardly socially or professionally absent of course) has something to do with it?

“face” as tenet of social discourse is a most fascinating concept. After so much time spent in Thailand and around, I think it has served me well in conflict situation in France and here, SF.

I actually find americans quite into the face concept, compared to french, maybe even euros (remember Panos and Rafal, Greece-Poland, what a match!!!). People rarely scream here, or tell you what they think of you, and they can step back rather than aggravate a situation. French would rather just “have it” and be done with it…

MARCIN,

If you are planing to travel to the Faroe islands, you might want to check out the work of Ragnar Axelsson, he has a book called “Faces of the North”
Enjoy…
D.

‘Working or studying in a total-immersion environment can help’

SIDNEY

i think that is the only way in most photographic circumstances..
certainly with asian countries i have often heard both sides from women – that they wfeel they are not ‘let in’ as much as men, and i have also heard of a womans very specific and interesting experience in gaining access to intimate situations.. with other women.

what has worked for me is almost to simple to say – gaining trust and respect are the only ways into any subject.. giving of yourself will lead to receiving from others and i think thats a rule whether photographing an eastern country or your next door neighbours.

remember – we are all the same, relatively, and we all respond (within certain extremes) to the same things.. any divide between cultures can, i believe, be overcome..
with tibetans for me – after a few months living on the village i was helping out with everyday and sometimes not every day events.. i would help with dinner and i helped with disposing of the dead.. knowing when to photograph and when not to was showing respect.. and knowing when to make a joke and when not to was just as important.
before you know it, you’re invited for lunch with prominence monks.. studying tibetan mysticism and smoking green with the ‘coool’ kids.

i think any work shows your level of communication with your subject.. and it’s easy to see a photographer who is photographing ‘these people’ as opposed to a photographer who is ‘understanding ‘people”..

the way i interpret being ‘loose’ at photography is much more than as a technical exercise.. to be relaxed, at ease and get a good handle on the subject you have to be relaxed, at ease and have a good handle on the subject..

it’s a good discussion – and thats my angle on it. i cannot understand what it is like to live 2000 years of Buddhism.. 50 years in exile.. have your family and friends murdered.. what i can understand are the day to day nuances which make us all human.. our failings.. our humor and our desire to be at peace with the world.
respect breeds respect, helping is a positive circle and giving to a subject is the way to approach any unknown culture, be it the guys working in mcdonalds, an abused society or a nightclub crowd.

it’s better to know how to cook an omlette before you break the eggs..

(bob – i know my analogies stink:o)

right on, bob..
the photographers i saw starting out as i retired from music life were all you say and more…
i have a habit, (desire?), for over analysis.. call it a hobby.. it passes the time pleasantly enough.

to add – i did not think this place would help or hinder my career when i began to post.. i just saw it as a bar with low lighting, smoky atmosphere and with fusion jazz belting over the mumbling crowds..

DAVID B.
Thanks for your comments! In fact, there’s two ‘companies’ in my presentation. But they are not professionnal companies, even if the show is very good, they’re local youth associations, with no real artistic or professionnal status, and of course, many young people i don’t know, so hard to get their confidence…and of course, it may lead to ‘burn bridges’…next time i’ll try to find a solution.

I’m a bit sad i can’t use the pictures, as you said, it’s a shame…
But i’m going to put on my site a dance solo and another event from both professionnals companies, so in this case, there’s no problem of authorization.

I often look your site and DECADE. Before being more interested in theatre and dance, i used to like concert photography (only little events in pub, not big things like you!), and it’s why i like your project.

PATRICIA
I like your photos of the electronic party, it looks like we are there, and feel the ambiance, very ‘close’ photography, i like it.
(but please forgive me, two stupid questions:
1. don’t you consider photographying this way is ‘cheating’ in a certain way, as people don’t know what you do?
2. did you plan to use this photos, or it was just personnal – because it may be hard to have people authorization if they don’t know you shoot them…)
I like this kind of shooting, so i’m interested in your answers, don’t believe i want to judge your work…
cheers

DAVID B AND ALL:

i should make a quick clarification on what i’ve just written above (and 2 days ago and other times) about Editors, other photographers. It goes without saying that i respect Editors, because as i just chatted with someone yesterday about, i see Photographers-Editors as being symbiotic: neither can live without the other. I actually see editors (this is also true in writing, believe me) as part of the “team” to produce great work. A good photographer-editor team (just as a great writer-editor team) can produce magic. Marina and I often work like this, bouncing our work and our editorial eye for eachother (in both writing and photography). More importantly, i know a few editors personally who i respect profoundly. In fact, one of the smartest and kindest and most insightful persons in the biz is a woman who works here inToronto (used to work for Magnum) who is the PicEditor of a major mag in Canada. she’s a personal friend and I respect her immensely. she not only understand, gets and knows more about photography (including the history) than 90% of the photographers i know, but she’s got no ego, and she’s been a major playa in London and NY and now here in sleepy toronto. I’d love to publish for her but know my work (writing and photo) cant make it for her readership but she’s got an eye and mind to slay dragons and she’s fucking nice and genuine as all hell. If i ever put together a photo book, besides Marina and David, she’s another im gonna call in to help me. The same seems true with Gina Martin here and other editors i know. But, i’ve met so many who just are high as a frickin’ kite. funny, ’cause marina and i also know personally the PE at NewYorker. We knew her when she’d just left school in TO. She’s also a wonderful wonderful person…but NY can change people too…all that thin-aired oxygen. I also have met and befriend so many wonderful wonderful photographers (famed and unknown) who really kept my heart afloat, same with other folks like Agency directors excetera. So, please dont think im down on this professional: the opposite. Photography and writing are part of my daily oxygen, but the more your travel, meet, the more swampy shit you gotta get through to see smell the swee-thin stab of fresh lake air…above all, what joins me to people aint at all about what they do, their status, even their work, but who they kettle themselves as, about how they live and join their life, their spirit and their generosity of caring…great photographers, editors, publishers are a frickin dime a dozen…the kind and selfless and generous human being….well…that joy cannot be made comparable, not matter the other awards or accolades or worshippers….

in the end, each of us must face, alone, our own lives lived and no matter of countenance from others is gonna shape or shift that no how…earlier this year, i’d spoken up for a friend and a colleague, someone whom I respect and admire as a photographer and a person who i like cause they’d been treated poorly by the big leagues and most of the photo world who knew what was playing out stood silently from fear to piss off people, including people who are extraordinary photogs and compassionate, well-minded folk…later, folk talked that that photographer and i were simply “seeking fame” for speaking up and out in defense of a point…how little people understand why we do things, and how unimportant it is to seek understanding or approval, especially from those who already measure how they live by the yardstick of standards that often seen corrupted…

in the end, we’re all from the same loam and muck…the same, and we return, every one of us, to the same place in the end…and we are united to all that because of that…and being outspoken or famous or unknown in the end matters very little…and doesnt change the swerve of any of that…

my son asks me a simple question:

how was your day….

aint noone gonna be able to pitch that tent to answer that but me and the enacting to make a life that answers him in a way that i hope will make him feel calm is all i give a fuck about…

really, nothing more…

the rise and fall

As a mother, at the risk of her life,
Watches over her only child,
Let him cherish an unbounded mind
For all living beings.
Let him have love for the whole world,
And develop an unbounded mind,
Above, below and all around,
Boundless heart of goodwill, free of hatred,
Standing, walking, sitting or lying down,
So long as he be awake,
Let him cherish this thought,
This is called divine abiding here.

Karaniyametta Sutta

cheers
running
b

SIDNEY….

either i did not know, or i had forgotten, your connection with Japan…for sure, i did not know you lived there for 20 years…this must have changed you forever…

i never lived there, but worked many months in Japan on long term projects..my most in-depth Japanese experience however happened in Virginia…my room mate in college was a Japanese man, Masaaki Okada (he did the layout for my first little book Tell It Like It Is)..because of him i “survived” college..

your assessment of the differences between the Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Chinese seems about right to me having worked in all four countries , but we were, are, and always will be Westerners and i think the first thing i “learned” about any of the Eastern cultures was that there was no way i would ever or could ever or should ever totally UNDERSTAND the complexities of these multi-layered sophisticated cultures….

the element of pure SURVIVAL built in to the histories of these cultures alone would naturally necessitate an element of “do not reveal all”….

not in the least frustrated by this, i grew to accept and appreciate whatever was given to me and not to expect a Western response or action from anyone…as a Westerner i am so so in debt to much of Eastern philosophy and culture…

absolutely nothing has helped me more in dealing with people overall than what i absorbed from my experiences in the East…it turned me into an East/West hybrid i suppose…i do not forsake my deep rooted Western heritage, but the Eastern “modifications” have been personally enriching to say the least…

i am not a scholar in any way, but forever an eager student, and have found it so life enhancing to borrow bits and pieces of Eastern revelations and allow them to FLOW into my Western tableau….

DAVID BOWEN…

i think photographers overall are a bit or perhaps more than a bit neurotic/idiosyncratic , but totally “sane” from a psychiatric standpoint…

they tend get it all OUT, as do you in your photographs and writing….

my point is: do not leave the blog!! it may be your very best THERAPY…..i am almost certain (but not expert positive) that a good “shrink” would read all of our comments and pretty much endorse us all sitting around in this big internet circle….

one of my ex-interns is studying “phototherapy” in Italy….yes, a fairly new branch of psychiatry…i will have her give us an in-depth report on what in the hell is “wrong” with all of us!!!

in the meantime, let’s go shoot…we all know that WORKS!!!

ALL…

you may have noticed that Anna B. is not writing this week..this is not a mandate from me,but she literally has no time to write…the girl is working…i offered her my desktop to write yesterday….she declined, saying she would write AFTER her experience this week…i might have made her a little “crazy” (er, i mean neurotic), but i think you will appreciate the “results” when you soon will see…

cheers, hugs, david

DAH

it’s going to be an interesting study and i’d be fascinated by the results.. as i’m almost certain there must be traits which bind us together, which is strange in an industry all to consumed by competition.. or may be those feeling the competition do not get it?
doing our own thing has to be paramount.. and while doing that there IS no competition.

sanity.. well…. with everyone i’ve had my ‘moments’.. and no harm done to others..

*story deleted here*
:o)

after too long looking at other people it has to have side effects.. is everyone looking at me? how would i ‘photograph’ within my own life – because i often catch myself in a photographic situation and wonder.. what would someone see in me?

madness – the outside world.. the inner world is quite calm.

DAVID BOWEN :)))

LOVE THE DESK! :))))…wish i had a digital camera (maybe i’ll borrow dima’s tonight) to snap some pics of my desk at school (littered with papers and photobooks and english books and gifts from students) and our desk at home (ditto the books, litter, photos, etc) :))))

DAH ;)))))))

this blog IS MY THERAPY!!!!! :)))))…and of course, the meditation…

gotta run y;’all

hugs
b

DAH said:
“walking the fine line of doing your “own thing” and still paying the bills is one of the main things this forum is all all about….”

:)))))
yeah… Maybe I should start designing postcards to finance the postcard-project?!
:)))))

B&W / COLOR
I make it dependant from the pictures / motives / stories. Sometimes b/w feels necessary and sometimes color.

ANTON
still waiting for my Giacomelli … :(((((
You are one lucky guy…

JamesC
Have I already wished you well? I do!!
Happy birthday!!! :)))))

BOB
yes, I saw that the deadline was terribly close.
I will write you an email as soon as I have time to built clear sentences in my head again. :)
BTW, sorry if I forgot to add the address on the project-description. I did not want to complicate things by adding redundant information, but in this case it is more than important. Thank you for pointing it out. I added it now.
(i am still kind of fighting with the website, it is sometimes too complex for what I want… but then again … I want to fit too many things in there) Still not focussed enough.

As to when I will photograph Marina and you?! :) Well I have to get your “application” first. Then I will have to consider strongly if we really still are strangers :))
…
No, seriously. I wanted to come to NYC next year for SOMETHING. Maybe to apply for a loft workshop of David’s with David Bowen and Gianluca. I have a couple of projects on my mind, that I would like to do … I do not know yet what. Sometimes my projects get too complicated and too big. I had a wonderful idea yesterday, and Tony’s eyes grew like tennisballs when I told him. But yet again it is something, that would have to be done internationally (starting in the US). And it would take years to finish … It is my speciality to have these kind of concept-ideas, unfortunately.

So NYC sometimes next year for sure. It depends a little on the financial side too.

As Ana pointed out already, I have to find out how “the hell” I am going to finance this. I am just right now booking a flight to Helsinki. At the moment I am trying to do one trip a month. So it will take some time until I have amounted what I have to amount to have a good start. And after I have a more or less serious body of work around “Wishes …” I will slow down.
What I did not tell yet is that I want to do an alternative of this project in with Soldiers … I need something to show to ISAF and the ministery so I get a chance to do this. Will not be easy.

Took the chance in Perpignan to get in contact with photographers working in Afghanistan, too. We will see. But first things first. And that will be “Wishes …” That is why I am pushing it. Even though the financing of it is quite tough for me.

JEAN
thank you about your feedback on “Meaning” … Although I have no pictures to show yet. It is a tricky thing, you probably can imagine it. Next week I will be sending out the first letters for it. Will take a long time to do. But as it goes chapter-wise it should not matter.

I wanted to ask the same as David: why always from the back?

DAH
Cheers to Diego! He is doing a workshop, is he not? I’ll never forget your hourly “where the hell is Diego?” :)))
Would be great to join in the party … unfortunateyl … I still did not get my new passport. They would not let me in this way … That is really the only reason why Tony, Hunter and I will not show up. :))
But thanks for the convite.

DAVID B
A year off for editing, reflecting, making a family :)
Perfect!
And you are so righ about the time… Editing takes so long! I still have a couple of thousand of pictures to edit for a shooting I did last year! It was for a friend, an architect, and as it is not paid we agreed on me doing it “whenever I have time”… Big mistake. I think there will never be time for it. I guess I’ll have to do it over christmas.
Did not quite get this:
“to complete the study i need to photo in detroit – home of house – and the far east.. smaller non-commercial events which magazines and tourist boards would not fund.”

Sounds like a good combination you have found. Are you just covering the musik events or are you adding photos that describe the overall situation “around” the music?

You are moving to Bergen? Oops, when next year? Spring? I’d love to combine it. Have some friends in Sweden etc. but… Have to organize that a bit better. Should not be holiday… :)) It will be necessary to get a bit of work done. Projects are piling up. I hate to have too much going on at the same time, I get afraid not to manage to finish things. Psycho stuff. :))

Teaching is good. You cannot, as in the US, just start teaching in an university here… But things are starting to loosen up a bit. Thanks to Brussels. :) I taught CAD some years ago at Fraunhofer Institute. Was quite fun, but … difficult to organize. To be able to teach photography, or to do workshops around it … Great thing!!!

BOB, DAVID B…..

let’s go Eastern for just a moment…about editors that is…look at it from THEIR SIDE…

most are caught “between a rock and a hard place”….actually loving photographers and photographs, but having to play so many different sides just to get through the day…

almost every picture editor i know, including the ones at the very top, at one time in their life DREAMED seriously of being a photographer…

to be “out there” with the wind and the rain in their face as are you….

all of them that i know, at some point realized their strength was “inside” instead of “outside”..PUT DOWN THEIR CAMERAS…felt they could do more for photography working the “system” rather than being a “shooter”…

so, they sit at a desk and i would imagine still remember their original passions….they see YOU actually “doing it”…living their original dream…

don’t you think it is just a little hard for them sometimes to see a story that THEY have worked so hard on to see only the name of the photographer in print?? to see only all of the accolades going to the photographer they so once dreamed of being??

editors are no different than any of the people we photograph…we cut the people we photograph a lot of slack because we are “getting our picture”….

listen, i have been just as “burned” by some editors as anyone out there…but, by looking at the big picture and by walking a “mile in their shoes” you may find that you should not “take it personally”….

you should see yourself as the “lucky one” in the equation…not powerless… you are in fact EMPOWERED…

see things from their point of view and you may find they start seeing things from your point of view…

cheers, david

—————-
Now playing: Muddy Waters – Rollin’ And Tumblin’, Part 1
via FoxyTunes

DAH & ALL:

oNE last bit about Pe’s and work. I try and think that IS VERY IMPORTANT that professionalism and respect be the working mantra for everyone! Just as with EFP and Look3 last year, i have always tried to be good for my projects: get them done on time with little trouble or worry. just as with EFP and Look3, i try to get you work on time, without you or Michael doing any worry….just as i think what a PE respects above all is not ARROGANCE or Artistic attitude, but a good work ethic: do the work well, on time and be respectful.

that is how i have always behaved…and what i admire when i get treated like that by others…

it doesnt always work that way ;))

hugs
b

ah ha – and i’m playing
one bourben, one scotch and one beer’
by john lee hooker..
‘i ain’t drunk – i’m just drinking’

too much to write now.. just had a long chat with beate about it.. editors.. the confidence game.. showing vulnerability on here and still wanting – conditioned – to hide it from the editors.. knowing where they come from .. it’s never taken personally from the editors and some of them are good photographers.. all credit to them and all they do.. especially those who do not use their powers for self inflation and ego.

here is something.. my photo editors will not be suprised by ‘decade’ but the editor in chiefs will be.. showing the whole and unvarnished truth will not suit their cause with advertisers or readers.. thats why i need to change clients.
i chatted with a writer colleague on this – now that i have retired from youth culture somewhat i can show what it’s really about.
some of my work which i’ll show would prevent them from commissioning me again – because i want to be honest.
i photograph for myself – the mag used 5 to 15 photos out of 300 to 600.. the photos i took for myself are ‘shoe-boxed’ for now.. until now.. seeing the light of day now.. and it will suprise my editor in chiefs..

the next editors i want to work with will, i hope, be interested in the photos i take for myself rather than the few formulaic ones i take to sell the mag.. will see how that pans out as the wheels on this bus go round and round, round and round.. (ad nauseum)

editors DO deserve credit and i always made sure to compliment when they did a good job.. cropping.. design.. a good cover.. and it is a shame that is the only credit they got for each piece.. but./. i planned the pieces mostly.. found the funding.. did the work.. put my landlord off the rent for this or that month.. they collected ‘idea’s’ and edited them into a whole.. and they did get their name printed high in the front of the magazine… and a fat, regular paycheck.

david – divided soul thanks all – editors foremost – and thats perfect..

lassal

yes.. it takes a long while.. a long long while.. and thought.
this year having the time to ponder the more philosophical aspects.. not worrying about commissions.. funding.. rent.. marketing.. accounts.. it needed to be done..

i’m in a cocoon and the walls of this little womb like room are pasted with memories – good and bad – while i sit and make sense from it.. from it all.. editors.. events.. lost weekends and made friends.. before coming back grown.. and beginning again.. with a headstart and wings already attached.. i am convinced the best part of my life is just begining and the best work i can produce is in the near future… learning lots here.. between the lines there is as much to learn as with ‘i like 5, 10, 15 and 23’.. thats where the gems are, i think.

beate just said
‘you have to be vulnerable on there – otherwise how will you grow?’

yes.. quite.. anyway..

ferries is one way of doing northern europe.. they are great.. to get to bergen from where i am is two long ferries.. fjords.. landslides.. fun.
welcome anytime one and all.. spare bed waiting..

teaching is just perfect.. the perfect way to break from shooting.. that or BEING AN EDITOR was what i hoped for :o)
of course contact off-forum.. people do.. i like muchas..

bob

the desk.. digital..
someone ‘gave ‘ me a canon 10d.. it’s shite.. no – it really is.. hard work to get exposures spot on.. but i love it for doodling..
and my phone..
someone gave me a nokia n73 yesterday – 3.2 million pixels pisses on the nikon D1x.. and a zeiss lens.. one of carls very own.. amazing.. learning it limitations today.. has it’s qualities though.. autofocus.. even exposure compensation.. amazing..

must be off.. may have missed a comment.. if so apologies.. no time to read through all – will do later.
time shift – you guys getting up and typing your hellos late in my day :o)

big-up’s to all…

ALL…

quick announcement: one of our bloggers just contributed $5000. to the Emerging Photograhers Fund…

i will not say who now, because this generous person may want to remain anonymous, at least for the moment…this contribution will be added to the growing EPF funds contributed by individuals who BELIEVE in you and who will quite literally be helping you to finish a project….

this would seem to me to be a pretty amazing development from a little imperfect photo blog…sure makes me proud of all of you…

so much is happening………this place is “on fire” !!

running to class…

love you, david

Editors … Never had “it” from a photographic point, but working for years with them in illustrations. Similar thing, that is why I dare to compare now in the sentences to follow (please feel free to skip this…). Incredible similar, only that very often they have not been illustrators before. More the other way around: illustrators who had been creative directors, etc. before :)
Up to now I thought it was very simple: they have a job = they have to deliver, and I am their problem solver. So for me to be an illustrator was always something extremely detached. I simply saw it as a service. Not an art. Thus I never experienced any problems with CDs, ADs or other kind of editors. I worked FOR them. I saw my job as to
illustrate THEIR wishes (of course with my means) They came up to me because they liked the way I solved their problems … They liked the interpretations I gave to the thoughts they had (or not). Havin a lot of experience helps you find week spots and fill out the gaps for them. I know colleagues do not agree with me here, but I always found this to be part of my job, too. A very open thing. Cards on the table. I never liked to play games and I witnessed that they usually are glad not to have to.
The magic? Not to see it as art.

:)
I could not really do this now with photography. Even without wanting to get into the art-discussion, I just have a different approach to my projects. To my PROJECTS! They have to be how I see them. Then again, I have a certain look&feel I like in photography and which I pursue. Something specific I want to have in. If any editor would like to have this look&feel for whatever assignment she/he has on the table, I would be glad to talk about it. BUT, I would NOT accept an assignment to copy photographers xyz. WHITHIN my look & feel I would be glad to experiment, as I love to experiment anyway. So here again I would play with open cards. And when it is an assignment, it is about the need of the editors or whoever they are working for. If I have a problem with these guys, then … I should not accept the assignment.

hmmm… Maybe I put this into a wrong looking dress of words now. What I mean is, that I find it very clear what the deal is. So we should look into each others eyes on the same height. No games. No lies. I demand professionalism and I think they can demand that from me too. Apart from that I do not care how the person is. I do not have to be friends with them. I did BECOME friends with a lot of people I have been working with, but it is not necessary for me to like them. I just want a professional relationship as long as the job goes on.

I guess I am not very romantic at this point. I prefer to be romantic on other occasions :)))

Hope I did not miss the question.

DAVID

wow… good news…

(did send you mail – did u receive?)

lassal

i think i get what you’re saying .. and you did not miss :o)

editors are artists.. hey, by my definition of an artists my mate hamish the accountant is one.. and you put it well.. professionalism speaks loudest of all.

regarding the DONATION
that’s just fantastic news..

WHOMEVER DONATED
i genuinely hope you get some of it back through an EPF grant or some such beautiful gesture.. complimentary *something-or-other* just for you as the world turns..
beautiful.. distribution of wealth in action.. with thoughts.

and so, more than ever, it seems that we’re feeding each other here.. without the more usual parading and posturing so common on other, lesser forums for discussion.

one generous thought.. followed with action.. will be returned..
doesn’t that just work much better than ‘the fear of god’ as a motivation for kindness?

really impressed.. if not astonished i’m sure we’re all inspired by that action

http://www.chris-bradley.com/#
http://www.lightstalkers.org/karlbadohal
http://www.flickr.com/people/lawrencesumulong/
http://www.nicholasricher.com/

stalking the workshop students?
me?
nosey?
don’t be absurd.

for NICHOLAS RICHER, if i stalked the right one..
http://bp0.blogger.com/_D7BO-iIFIl0/SJLQNKR0YnI/AAAAAAAAAcU/Wud2NYn9E0A/s1600-h/Untitled-5.jpg

Hi All :)
Congratulations to David on the EPF funding and thank you to the donor for supporting this growing DAH blogosphere..
A hypothetical this morning:
If you were approached with the possibility of two photo assignments – one in your own country/region, and one in some far-flung location across the globe; both are equally hard-hitting and important; funding isn’t a consideration due to, on-topic, the awarding of a stipend to fund whichever project you chose.. Which one would you pick?
Would you head out across the globe and hope to make the one closer to home a personal project later?
Or throwing in the ‘starving child’ factor: Does one project take precedence over the other, either because it is close to home and should ‘matter more’.. or because the other might be in a poorer country and you feel your photos could add ‘exposure’ to a topic?
Just wondering what others think.

ALICIA

for me it would really depend on the VERY specific projects. Cannot answer this in general.

Cheers,
Lassal

yeah … if both projects would be equally important etc.etc.etc. I would go as David did and take the one I could best integrate into my work.

DAVID B

“‘hired eye’ work”? What does that mean?

Signing off now for at least one week! Maybe two.

Good light for all of you,
Lassal

Lassal —
I agree/can see that. It was a generalized question.
Being a little more specific, I was approached the other day about a project in Vietnam. The woman I was speaking with is an avid volunteer, but said some have asked why she finds more meaning in the work she does in Vietnam than in the projects she works on stateside. She said that while she agrees there are so many projects she can work on here, in Vietnam she feels her work/money/efforts more directly benefit people there who don’t have as many opportunities to help themselves because of the govt.
Thus my photo-based question.
And David B. —
I can see your point as well. I suppose for me, if either project had strong meaning and value, I would jump at the opportunity, regardless of how completely it fit into previous works.. and possibly try to do both if I could.. However, I have had editors comment that some of my photos feel too ‘global’ and not ‘local’ enough (having shot in places like Scotland — liked your link — Italy, and at a Hare Krishna community, albeit in New Vrindaban, W. Va).
I will share a link to photos soon. I tend to agree with whoever mentioned that sometimes their photos feel more ‘normal’ than the photos of some posting.. but I am working on a better way to share some of mine.
Running to work.
Will rejoin the blog discussion later.
~alicia

/\ if you do the above for a couple of magazines, a couple of times – they will then think of you when they have a ready prepared ‘press junket’ trip.. an easy job.. and the ball is rolling..
it’s getting off the ball without falling that then becomes difficult.. again.. that can be done too :o)

Great news, DAVID! And so touching that somebody believes on us and the EPF…
Personally right now I’m in the need to feel affection and care from the others so every single sign of interest makes me feel warm.

Thank you, whoever this person is.

Hugs

Ana

DAVID B.
Thanks a lot for your long post. It gives me more confidence. You’re right: I’m writing a mail to the teacher of the company, and ‘wait and see’ ;-) thanks again

Your photo is great ;-) i stopped smoking since 1 year, but cigarettes were really photogenic ;-)

LASSAL
I understand that Meaning is a ‘tricky thing’. It sounds like THE PROJECT of your life, and of course, it can only be interesting. And make me wondering:’what is my project?’.
The other thing that make me jealous :-) is when you say that you’ve seen the pictures in your mind, before everything, it’s like a sort of ‘light’? Lucky Lassal…good luck and never give up this (lifetime?) project.

Thanks for looking my website. Maybe you haven’t seen my last posts, so the back photos were because of missing authorizations. You can see a largest editing there:
http://jnss.x10hosting.com/dah.html
then go to ‘Dancers #2’.

THE PERSON WHO MAKES THE GIFT
Thank you very much for the help and confidence you have in this community and EPF.

Cheers

and.. WHAT BOB SAID..
competition and rancor? that must have been horrible.. thanks for keeping the faith..

i’ve been a forum whore today.. going now.. washing up.. wet clothes to hang.. not a sniff of fishing for a week..
tomorrow.. tomorrow.. they’ll bite, they will.

Hello David,
Hi all,

This is my first post and I think that it’s the perfect time for it, as I’d like to congratulate the generous contributor to the EPF. Great!

After reading/hearing too much (?) about how the “photography world” is in a very tough place, it’s great to see that some out there still firmly believe that it’s about finding new paths, about “being out there”, about teaching and sharing views, about believing!

Often as I read this forum and its interesting discussions (btw, waw!), I find myself in a pretty good mood, thanks to the positive, direct, funny and generous/friendly posts… No wonder generosity flows !

Again, thanks.

I’m in NYC now, so I’ll head out in the city!

All the best,
Tanguy.

Katharina, about “face” in Asia and wetern women, you ask why I experienced them more frustrated dealing with it. Not an opinion, just a supputation:

Western women are a lot more independant than asian women vis-a-vis social dos and don’ts. They are extremely sensitive (so am I, but I’d feel it more personally if I was a woman) to the unfairness of women being discriminated and not having the direct outlets to express their grievances and effect change. Because of “face” (who you are, what you feel, want, etc… must kow-tow to how you behave, roles and facade are paramount, an ingrained notion).

So, I suppute that experiencing “sisters” mired in ingrained, interiorized notions of facade and make-believe (the worse kind of victimization in feminist terms) on a daily basis may take its toll.

Also the fact that western women will not behave so (something we western men do not have think about once, since we “dominate”), and may even act as if in the West, assertively (very bad behaviour), which in return closes doors, provoke misunderstandings, and breaks the good balance between ying and yang, the “good functionning of things”, ie. the ULTIMATE SIN! (until asians go beserk from too much facade and kill thousands and more of their own…Nobody’s perfect!)

Just a thought.

Marcin,
yeah im “hungry”…
but i dont think im gonna “bite” this time..
peace

( but dont forget… again its not about a “Winner”…
its not about the prize..its not only one prize either…
did you read ? another $5K just stepped in… so its a FLOW..
its a continuity… its more like LENDING money to an artist..
“timing-wise”… when the artist needs it most…
but please see beyond money or PRIDE or inflated EGOS…
Even if someone gets a fund today doesnt make that
“someone” an “INSTANT” DAH, or an instant magnum photog…)
Actually after the date you going to “receive” that stipend…
that will be the day that YOUR real responsibilities BEGIN…
towards us and the whole world of photography…
so receiving a stipend it might actually turn your life into more work, more stress,
[…more money , more problems..]… as B.I.G, or Biggie
once said…

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Qaeky3dGSuU

Lassal,
what can i say about your spirit…?
you are making this blog very precious and important…!
without you, We are Nothing…

peace all
( & David B, i enjoy posts you lately . MUCHO INFO…..)

TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE LOVIN;

y’ALL saw this at A Photo Editor: Job Opening(s) for photographers…look read here…maybe this might be good for some of y’all:

http://aphotoeditor.com/2008/09/17/interesting-staff-photographer-position/

cheers
b

on competition and ‘prize’..

i never entered a competition before the self portrait thing.. i think because every commission has felt like winning something.

the hard work spent towards publishing of work and earning probably has better odds than a competition.

i’ve no idea who will be favored and i’m happy for anyone to be helped..
there’s more going on here than money..

remember all – if you have a good idea you will find the money.. hoping too much on a grant needs something about eggs in one basket to be said..

if you want it, then it will happen regardless.. if you really want it, work for it and are honest with yourself about that then no grant, agency, publication or time contraint will stop you – you’ll do it..

cause one thing for certain – it’s never been cheaper to shoot and shoot and shoot and shoot.. … and on.

.

PANOS!! LOL!!!

Getting ready to go downtown and shoot right now, and YOUR post made me STOP and TALK….

you know we will REMEMBER your speech for whoever the worthy recipients are…I am saving quotes from here just for that kind of time!

but it’s ok I’ve lingered, the light will be getting better in a bit anyway….

ciao all

LASSAL,

Thank you so much for caring. I’m in a hard situation so I’m kind of sensitive now. Amazing what a big hug can do even in the distance, so many miles away. Will write you, thanks for being there :-)

GUSTAVO,

Gracias :-)

PATRICIA,

“so you can again take to the sky and soar…..” I’ve got damp eyes reading that. And such a warm hug! I think I even could feel it! Thank youuuuuuuu sweet Patricia :-)

Hugs and a smile

Ana

PANOS, MARCIN…

yes, this funding (we now have $20,000 total EPF with more expected soonest) will be spread around among several recipients…at least this is my inclination at the moment…

BOB…

great summary and thanks for your support all this time…if we can support any amount of new work, then we will have done our bit…

cheers, david

DAVID ALAN HARVEY & ALL:

This will be quick as i am running…actually, im still editing Bones (i keep playing with it to try and make something special for y’all)…anyway, so, I am re-arranging pictures on the computer when Dima (my son) and his friend come up to me:

“DAD, have you seen this” (its the the September 2005 edition of National Geographic: devoted to AFRICA)

“I cant remember honey” (Marina looks and says: “yes, of course, you’ve seen it…dont you remember”…

“Why sweethear” (i ask Dima)

“Here Dad, look at this!”

Dima opens the magazine (which he brought home today from his school’s library) to page (oh, i cant find the fucking page number), well some page before the Main story…opens the 2-page spread and what do i see:

“Dad, look that’s David!”….

David Alan Harvey sitting at a table with 3 other men at a Nairobi restaurant…just like (his face) Lassal’s mask…glasses on his head, beautiful face!…

I think for a moment (how the hell does Dima know what David looks like)…well, he didnt, but he saw his name when he was looking at the magazine at school and brought it home to show me and Marina…(David: Dima loves u and your pics too)…

so, ok, i forget, and i look through the magazine…

1st picture i say: that’s fucking classic harvey picture: a gorgeous gorgeous photograph of a young woman dancing/dreaming..soft backgroun, blur, gorgeous dream light and her, like from a Rousseau painting, clear and unbreakable…fucking gorgeous woman, gorgeous photograph…fucking old man harvey knows what he’s doing…and then i look at David’s story…o, christ……for me, with Lynn Johnson’s story: the most gorgeous pictures in the magazines (and there are alot of brilliant pics in this magazine edition, including another amazing/brilliant picture by Nicols of an elephant and others…and then david’s pictures…so so spectacular: 4 beautiful women in pristine light, another picture of a child (young girl) in mosquito netting (heart breaking photograph: again, the solitary child, harvey’s real theme), a couple near a dinosaur (flying helicopter), priests in amazing red with 2 children (the young black girl between the 2 priests has to be one of the great great grat expressions/caught images i’ve seen in a long time (Harvey,w hat are you doing hiding these images from us??)…taxi drivers, trains, light…god damn, i think, this is a gorgeous essay…

and so, i tell dima

“thanks sweetheart…so beautiful…”

“yea, it’s cool pictures. would you ever want to shoot in africa like David”…

“i’d love to”….

dima leaves….

then i look at Lynn Johnson’s essay and read Alexandra Fuller’s story (one of my favorite writers)…and i think: GOD DAMN BEAUTIFUL…AND BLACK AND WHITE…

and i think to myself: I am going to talk to Gina Martin when i see her and talk to her about Black and White work and Marcus Bleasdale :)))..

anyway…

why am i telling you all this:

just this: to show you:

my 14 year old son was looking at this mag at lunch (just as his daddy used to do as a child) and saw a name that was familiar and it brought him in and he wanted to share with his father…

the blog is way bigger than y’all think…

hugs
bob

me too Gina,
me too… but we will meet ,
soonest ( as maestro usually says.. )

PANIC BUTTON!

What is happening to this blog? Why 12 copies of David Bowen’s post, and 8 copies of DAH’s? And why is the appearance suddenly different with tiny type, and the links etc. moved to the bottom of the page…. and the familiar, reassuring format blown to smithereens?

Or am I the only one having this nightmare?

SIDNEY…

yes, something has been weird today on the Typepad part of this site…i could not post for hours earlier…so, let’s hope things will smooth out…i have no idea what is wrong..if it is not better soonest, we will call customer service

Okay, in Firefox things look a little more normal… but somebody has just seriously messed with the coding of this page, and among other things it has trashed its appearance in older versions of Safari. The banner photo is gone, the column structure that was so easy to read is gone, and the font is awful. And we still don’t know why the unbelievable number of repeat posts….

FAN-*******-TASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A BIG CHEERS to whoever was open fisted enough to donate to the cause here! Now days money is so hard to find to finance projects that can inform the world about difference and similiarities and the fact we are all humans and at the end of the day all have the same needs and some of the same wants and desires…

That, BTW includes photo editors… (hehehehehe…) Seriously guys I am good friends with lots of PE’s that are brilliant and the shrinking budgets and the multiplying numbers of photographers are big concerns for them as well. They don’t want to see their mates struggling and they are often overwhelmed with guilt about not being able to employ and pay better many more PJ’s.

I have had the great honour/pleasure of working with a very small but dedicated and professional team at TIME South Pacific and I can tell you these are not the arrogant or uptight and pretentious editors of some small and no name magazine. They are absolute pro’s and are delightful people as well.

And think how you would feel if you were the PE who I rang up and made an appointment with to see the very morning it was announced that his magazine was being killed? The poor guy had to ring me back the week after to make sure I had heard the news, I mean he had just lost his job and then rang me up to apologize to me…

The realities are that editorial photography has changed drastically from even just a couple of years ago. The medium of delivery for news has changed drastically in cashed up western countries and it has taken a fair bit of adjustment on newspaper and magazine administrations to work out viable ways of keeping the buisnesses, which is what they are, in profit so that their shareholders are kept happy.

What is disturbing is the idea (and maybe I see it more here in Australia, ‘cos the industry, while vibrant, is small) that the people who run the budgets (accountants etc) seem to want to cut out ANY content providers (US!) from the equation.

It just means that the content we provide has to be better than ever and thats what, I believe, is what this forum/blog/hang out with good pictures (RAFAL I just checked out ‘Family Ties’ and its really great and ERICA I can’t wait to see the new stuff) is about!

So thanks to the generous benefactors (DAH, DONATORS etc) ‘cos if there is anything I love most its good pictures and ANYONE (PE’s very much included) that helps in the creation of them is writing themselves into history ‘cos what photographers do is provide a memory, a piece of insight into the world as it is at this precise moment…

APOLOGIES ALL

For my unusual verbosity, I just thought it was important to provide a more sympathetic view of the folks that work at the coal face…

DAH & Community – i´m here in Buenos Aires and have started a portrait project on the Avenue De Mayo using tri’x film. here is my dilemma ‘ the price of the film here is double ie. 8 or 9 dollars per roll. in the states i pay no more than 4.00 per roll of 35mm 36 exposures ‘ as i understand from recieving a package from UPS they charge me half of the value of anything shipped here ie. import tax ‘ anybody have any suggestions ‘ i desperately need 100 rolls of film however not for eight hundred dollars ‘ anyone with experience with this part of the country please help or suggest some ideas ‘ already i have 80 rolls of trix however the film goes fast down here ‘already the results are amazing as i have found a natural light studio on a street corner ‘ the avenue de Mayo !!
peace to all ‘ from argentina

using a really old powerbook right now,
with Safari 3.1.2…
all ok, … !

SEAN/ BOB,

Both of you said it so well with your own words…. The sense of community has never been stronger…many from the blog have not yet met but so many have been fortunate to already meet, become real friends as opposed to “just” virtual ones… It is a strange feeling really….we are now so familiar with our respective aspirations, struggles etc…. there are so many out there that I sincerely wish for them to be recognized for their talent, get that push that you (Sean) have felt yourself from last year EPF… I will he happy for whoever will benefit from it this year…..

ERICA,

like BOB and the bones, you have been teasing us a lot with your project….I have to say that I am getting anxious to see it and it sounds as if this is just around the corner….few more days of patience I guess….

BOB,

Funny you talked about this issue of NatGeo in Africa…I had a copy of it laying around in my living room…. Very interesting work indeed from David at the time and quite different…the light and the colours were quite unbelievable in this work…I remember him saying that he was walking around Nairobi with a big light box… Check the link underneath that I had saved at the time. Kind of interesting to have him describe how he did that work. I loved many of the pictures….

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0509/feature2/multimedia1.html

PANOS,

Had a big laugh reading your critique of however will get the next EPF…Start practicing what you would say about yourself just in case it turns out to be you :):):) Panos bashing Panos…. Must have seen this before :)

Well, tomorrow is Friday…why do I have to love in Cinci rather than NY…I envy you Erica to be able to just stop by so easily…. Who will be our official reporter???? Hope you all have fun out there.

Eric

Oh…and for anyone who is not sick from over-exposure to China/Olympic related coverage…here is a small audio piece I put together on the fans and spectators around the games.

http://www.gallagher-photo.com/content/popup/OlympicNights/index.html

Best,
Sean

SEAN

I watched your piece this am and meant to write..I am in awe at how you pulled this together to create a meaningful piece..the selective lighting does it’s job and the sound too, but how! did you make this so fast?

SEAN

I will never get tired of seeing your view of the Olympics, from the inside. This essay is quite touching. You have managed to give a feeling of what the Olympic experience was like for the people of China, the everyday people not the athletes or the officials. Beautiful presentation with the masking and most effective audio. The text heightens the experience for your viewers. Excellent work.

I also want to thank you for your heartfelt words about what the EPF has meant to you. You have used it well. I certainly hope that there will only be celebration for the recipients this year. I’d hate to think that anyone would rain on their parade. As you say, we are family, and as such we need to support and encourage one another, especially when any of us meets with success.

Patricia

BOB B

So wonderfully mysterious. I am SO PSYCHED to see and read Bones in its entirety!!!

Patricia

PATRICIA ))))…

AFTER DAVID, you get first dibs! :))) (just wrote a part about u (well, the idea) in second last paragraph…patience and it’ll be all yours too :))))

SIDNEY: :)))

GOD DAMNED, i love U! :))))))…that’s what im talking about: talk about photography and language…dont fucking go away :)))..im sure Sean will both a) laugh and b) love it :)))…u da man too…

ok, gotta run…got some last edits before bed…

hugs

b

OH MY GOD…

Bob, this image is one that burrows deep in my soul & will never leave. THANK YOU for giving me a dream to sleep into.

love
Patricia

Patricia:

what can we do……but give each other parts of ourselves…u will get it all next week, after i’ve send to dah….

cant wait to all of us gather (be it detroit or toronto or nyc, aint no matter…aint no matter)…

love and hugs

ALL – my safari is a little tweaked also. may re-boot and see if that fixes it.

BOB – love wine (especially red….) will bring some too!!

SEAN – your words of the EPF were lovely.

it’s 12:45 and i should be in bed….

Lisa, thanks for your comemnts on Family Ties. Im glad you like it as it is, for me its the #1 priority project I have going as its the one that is most difficult to get to do due to time and money restrictions. With the other sets in my family project (link in my name) I have been getting images on a regular basis and they are constantly growing, and being refined…Family Ties has sort of been in a bit of a holding pattern.

Quick …

MORNING EVERYONE!

this is one for the americans among us:
http://www.artmattersfoundation.org

“In 2008, Art Matters will consider applications by nomination only. We will award grants of $3,000-$10,000 to artists focusing on communication and collaboration across national borders. We fund U.S. artists who are working internationally in all visual media including video, film, digital arts, performance (with a strong visual component), installation, and site-specific work. The work should take place within one year following the award.

Requests may be made for:

* International travel and exploration fellowships.
* Grants for specific international projects.
”

Unfortunately i am no US artist, so I cannot apply…
But some of you can. :)!
So BOB, think of a good project for Africa!!!!
:)))

As to the EPF …
Firstly I do not agree with Marcin that “women rule” here. And you should not forget that it is all about the BIG community. Sean was not that involved in the daily happening here, but was involved in a wider sense.
But to be very frank with you, I would much rather not see all these discussions about who should, would etc. get it among us. Maybe I am wrong and too sensitive about these things … but in these discussions, no mather how gentle they are carried along, for me there is always this “sting” that was mentioned above… So I always cringe a little …

The only way to influence whatever is to work. So in my honest opinion we should do excacly that. Not because of a possible EPF-grant around the corner, but because we should go on with our projects just as if there was non. Because for the very most of us there actually will be non!!! And we will carry on anyway. Because we love what we do, n’est ce pas?!
:)))))))))))))))))))))))

Sorry or this.

And you see … there are other grants too! And other ways of financing a project – thanks to David B we have an interesting website for Travelphotographes to look at and think about.

So, stay moving and act as if there were no EPF at all… Guess that would be best. Also for the “clima” here …

Sorry again.
I just loved panos entry so much. Je got it right there: to get a grant is to get a lot of responsibility.

Thank you Panos!
Thank you BOB!

Good bye for now.
Love,
L

LASSAL

I just try to say that most of persons who work I appreciate are women (it’s not mean completly that only women)
David many times said about “lookers” editors and his friends photographers and about EFP… I like most of work linked here and I think here are many excellent photographers, but some of them are photojournalists who doing real mission real job like Sean did last year or artist (like you) who showing world by “special glasses” in high level or “almost high” level. I really hope that some of those people will do next step by this forum (non virtual) and I think this is David’s intention.
I think David looking for diamond to change it for brillant… Is’t it David? Like most of unusual teachers do.
I don’t have nature of teacher I don’t like too much shools and masters, but I meet this kind of persons in my life and mostly they was just amazing amazing persons, full of passion and with big open hearts. They mostly were my teachers and friends.
Of course maybe I’m wrong, this is just my free thoughts, and my hopes, I can’t say what David’s intentions are and it’s not my intention.

Yes… I talk to much.

GINA,

Welcome home Gina, and thank you for that BIG hug :-) It makes a lot of good. Muacksssss!! Will write you an email.

ERICA,

I often mark some phrases in books. And from time to time I get one of those books (I’m kind of a disaster and always have a pile of books in my bedroom table that one of this days will fall down…) and open it randomly. It is amazing but usually the marked sentence makes a lot of sense in that moment. And now it, again, happened. Thank you so much for doing it for me… and thank you for sharing the small text as it really makes a lot of sense. Yesterday I was quite overcome and nervous but today I’m more calm and hope will be able to take the right decission. Yes, your randomly words from that book are true. Thank you and a big hug for caring :-)

ALL,

I briefly know some of you in person, I just know many of you from our comments in this community, but one thing is for sure, no matter the close bonds between people, there is always goodness ready for others. And this place with you all has big amounts of it. I’m really proud of it :-)

SEAN,

Nice words. I’m happy to see what this place and the EPF grant means to you. Just because of that it is really worth it! The most valuable thing for me about it is what you just mentioned: that it gave you CONFIDENCE. I’m really conscious that I need huge amounts of confidence and that is why I needed to show my work in Perpignan, just to start believing that I can make it. And it is great to know that the EPF gave you that confident to you. Confident is the first step to go farther and farther. You are on your way. Now…. just reach the sky!! Btw, nice work at the Olympics. Congrats!

Big hugs!

Ana

Dear Lassal it was to you, sorry

Without the mission?
Without the vision?
hmmm…

It is not the “big light” I saw, as Jean asked. I just saw … images.
And work :))))))

And I know, from experience, that once I start to put my hands on it, all can still turn to something different. It usually does. And I like it. Would be boring otherwise.

So to see the images for “Meaning” ist just to see the very first stone to step upon in order to cross the river… Not more. But I need this first step. I am shortsighted. I can always just jump from stone to stone as they appear in front of me.

No magic here. Just work piling up :)))
And I do NOT wish it were different.

I just wish I could be sure it works out at the end …

Strange …
a whole lot of comments from yesterday just appeared miraculously whithout having been there before …
And you guys talking to each other… so you have had the comments all along, otherwise you could not have answered ….

And … I did not see any difference in the blog-layout, wandering buttons, tiny type, … at all.

Poltergeist? Twilight zone?

oops.. will read back.. very strange.. perhaps we are overloading the blog?

LASSAL

i think your words on the EPF is right on. I am not part of the EP group (nor am i wanting to at this point in my life) – but i think you should just keep moving…

ALL

i should explain my “not wanting to at this point in my life”. i love my project in Mexico, however, it has been put on the back burner a bit at this time in my life. Between my NG job and LOOK, I not only have the time, but have enjoyed looking at work more than shooting. DAH and i have talked about this…. i want to keep working on the project, i just do not want to feel pressure to finish it or publish it. i want it to happen more organically… i just need a break and need that passion to come back.

Hi all!

BOB B.
Hello! We never talk together, but i often like your points of views (but forgive me, it’s rare when i read your posts entirely ;-) too hard to read everybody comments!!!)

PANOS/BOB/LASSAL
I share your point of view about the EPF, and that Panos said, $$$ is more responsability…

LASSAL
i understand better your ‘vision’. The first stone of the river to cross…

TANGUY
Welcome!

BOB!

Forgot to say love love love that last image…

I love the way your abstract pieces meld so seamlessly with those (like this one) that are less abstract….and the grain..the grain…someday I want to sit over a beverage with you and hear you explain how you get that lovely grain….

Would you please pass me some (coffee) over, Andrew??
:))

the only thing odd on my computer about this post is that the rss feed has not loaded.

RSS ok here.
BUT Seans comments yesterday, and everything following them were not on. Not even this morning. Just one single comment on it, mentioning Sean, and me wondering, looking everywhere and not finding anything that could go with it.
But there are now additional comments even before BOBs Dima story…. A lot of them. So I do not make any sense with my comments now, that pop up at the wrong positions. For me, my EPF reply went right after (!) Marcin writing that he sees “women ruling” here …

Well, as long as everything is fine now …

Andrew, thanks to offer help. DAH was asking for it in Perp. It would probably be great to get something off Mike’s shoulders. He has so much there already … Thank you! :)

ALL….

i believe exactly as David Bowen wrote and i think most of you agree….

i hope to hell this site is NOT about the funding…

i am so pleased and proud that the work of all of you would create such a buzz and interest in your photographs and writing that someone would see fit to help support a photographer in their quest for more knowledge…but, as David B. points out, this internet “home” is surely ABOUT the RELATIONSHIPS…

there is no doubt that money can really screw things up…i worried about that from the very beginning when last summer i came up with the idea to see if funding could be created off of this blog and be dispersed back to the photographers who needed it most…

there is also no doubt that money can really help a photographer grow, pursue a worthwhile project, and therefore stimulate more of the same as a stimulus for viewers of this work and for her/his colleagues to use photography as a tool for understanding in our often helter skelter world…

as in everything else in life, it is all about BALANCE… PRIORITIES…RESPECT…..LOVE…

i PROMISE all of you one thing…..

I WILL NOT ALLOW THE FUNDING TO BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A POSITIVE FORCE…

the split second that i see greed or selfishness or any of the “negatives” that money can often bring, i will shut the fund down and send the funding back to the benevolent donors….

however, i do not see this happening….i just want all of you to know deep deep down inside my motives and my parameters…what i stand for and what i will stand for….

Sean Gallagher, i think all would agree, has been a terrific “ambassador” as a recipient of the first EPF stipend…he went out and did more work…..he was GRACIOUS in his acceptance of this funding…he created AWARENESS with his new work…he has become a personal friend to many on this forum….so, one stipend given and one example of good use i believe….

all day today mike and i will be producing a slide show from the work of our students this past week….hard earned work….some photojournalism, some conceptual essays….this work will be shown with utmost respect along with the work of masters Gilden and Richards…

the student show is the grand finale….the last thing the gathered crowd will see is the student show….the last picture up on that screen will be a student picture… experience and “emerging energy” sharing exactly the same stage at the exactly same time and for exactly the same reasons…

for those of you who may be able to attend tonight, you will see very clearly our forum in all of its manifestations….for those of you who cannot come, i hope you will at least get a sense of it and will totally “feel” the motives and positive vibes…

ok, running…writing this note has made me late for getting the coffee pot going…many of us were up late last night editing pictures, sound tracks etc etc..so i had better get a move on scoring some bagels and coffee…

wishing all of you a great day (or night)…rock on !!!

peace et al, david

ok, I had a dream about the blog….

it was as it is now….long threads with conversations…..but it also had little areas you could fill in….like, a soundtrack box…kind of like a jukebox, where those reading could “cue up” songs, and you could listen or turn it off….and it had 2 (i think?) more “rooms”, for off topic conversations….these weren’t permanent, but you could pop in and out of them when you wanted to have a more email like one on one or two or three conversation, and not overwhelm the main conversation….and a movie room….and a gallery……

very weird, I guess I had spent a bunch of time workigno n a wiki and also had re-read the wonderful description of the blog as a house party that Glenn posted a while back….

ok, not sure why I shared that. lassal, more expresso about to be done…..

I have to buy a new espresso-thingy… It is of bad quality and putting in the sealing will actually not help at all. Some smiling woman gave it to me as a present when I bought a jeans last year. I guess I was the 1000000st customer or so.
The espresso-thing never worked …
But it provides phantastic-surrealistic paintings/drawings on the wall, once you use it …
:)))

lassal, highly recommend the bialetti if you can find one…I’ve had mine for years and years now…

The pages that show when you click my name are some of my “better” images…but I want a good tight portfolio I can submit when I’m able to do a workshop (hopefully with DAH?) sometime, maybe early next year…

hey andrew..
important questions for making a folio include (please add to these everybody..>)

– who is the work going to be seen by?
– what are you hoping to gain by showing it?
– in what format does the work need to be seen? (hard copy.. prints.. always worked better for me)
– what are you wanting the viewer to see?

commercial folios usually contain the biggest spread of images, showing off your technical ability, creativity and passion with a selection from 9 to 15 or 20.. BEST PICTURES

trying for an editorial feature in a newspaper or magazine supplement needs a tight edit, well captioned and where the photos narrative works both aesthetically and logically. these guys do not need to see any more than what you are asking them to publish.

tailored portfolios have been my mainstay – every meeting i take along different work.
for the past few years i have only ever shown work in print – magazines, covers, posters.. the work in context as the client used it..

i’m now going back to a print folio – exclusively prints – for which i will be shooting some more commercial / advertising style work and the like..

one tip a collegue let me into was this – every commission / body / shoot you do, choose 2 of the best pictures and print them.. stick them in the folio box and when the time comes you have a ready selection to present..

here is a little of my experience.. subjective of course and perhaps utterly useless.. but i write useless things all the time so why stop now?
i have only ‘seriously’ shown folios on two trips to london, 11 and 12 years ago… from that i got 2 clients..and an agency.. and bags of advice and encouragement..
all other showings until now have been emailed low res, as most work has resulted from recommendation and hard work ‘linking up’ jobs.. gathering names..
gotta get yourself connected.. writings on the wall and all that business.

so in terms of folio i may well be an amateur.. and i’m trying for a new folio all the time.. will be here in a few months..

/\ actually it’s more editorial and advertising..
hmm
very amateur

David

thanks – those are good questions and some good tips. Will take a look at the link shortly.

I’m trying to push myself forward, and I think having a more focused goal is important…so one thing I know I will need if I want to attend the kind of workshop I’m interested in is a portfolio to show…for the sake of having something more concrete, for instance, if DAH does another workshop at LOOK3 it requires a portfolio submission….I want to have something I can submit with confidence and pride…

Perhaps I’m too logical/linear….but I see growth as a series of steps….I can take the occasional good photo…I can narrate a story pretty well with snapshots (I think), now I need to refine that…

I want to get to the next level…but there is a saying that goes something like “if you don’t know where you’re going, any path will get you there” … while I want to learn to flow and create, I think it’s also important to have the next stage in mind, to be doing things that will take me in that direction….

All that said, I also know that sometimes it is possible to push to hard, that it just has to happen….so I keep that in mind as well….

hmmm…when we talk about taking ourselves to the next level, do we really know where that level is, or what characterizes it?

I think I’ve found my ponder for the day….

It’s the organic blog—has a mind of it’s own!!

oops—
comments disappearing in front of my eyes.
Ok.
Have to work anyway.

for the music, not the video/images….

been listening to this all morning.

and now you’re ready, that needs to say /\

ALL

I agree with DAH

It always will be the photograph, the comprehension of life, perhaps the chance at a meaningful place in history- I don’t know- maybe if I could be like- Nachtwey/DAH/Pelligrine/Frank/Moore/DuPont/Arbus/Cotton (not necessarily in that order and more, so many more…) could my little self contribute to the world in some small way…

But brothers Bob, David Bowen and Panos AND ALL THE SISTERS!!!!!!!!…..

Its not so easy and its definitely never about the money- and its not even about feeling the love…

I have to wonder what it really is about, really….

But EPF, really who cares, if you want to make your work, you will do it regardless…

I think my Brother BOB and Cousin DB they get it really…

Its about family and that is the most important…

Patricia Lay-Dorsey,
I’ve always wanted to go to one of those lap-shooting clubs but my wife won’t let me. Seriously: you are good at the technique.

Mike.

PANOS :))))

LOVE YOUR curse-word filled CONGRATULATIONS note to the “winner’! :)))))))))…balls out funny love it :)))))…sorry, just saw it this morning :))))…and totally agree…just as i said last year, i could care less about winning or not (highly unlikely), i’ve just felt honor to be part of this, and it was such a thrill to make Bones with the Intention as an Assignment for this specific blog and for this specific person (david)…and it turned into something for my dad and son :))))……i actually think EVERYONE wins! :))) ……but, i could use the money too ;)))))))))))))))))))))) (who the fuck couldnt)…

LISA: :))))…TOMORROW, all day metta retreat: i’ll be sending you thoughts, believe me and love and safety :))))…and yea, everything i do is really about Marina and dima and the rest of my family…and that includes my friends…without them, im fucking gone/lost/sunk…no amount of dough can change that :)))))

ANDREW B :))))…ok, if u’re at the fiesta on October 3rd, i’ll tell u my “secret”…but it’s really about how i develop the film, what film im using, light conditions and the way i shoot..but, yea, i’ll share :)))…and bones will have a good mix between ABSTRACT (wait until i show the pinhole-camera shots) and clear/straightforward: it has all that together, like a son mixing with both (i hope) :)))

gotta run

hugs y’all

GOOD LUCK WORKSHOP STUDENTS; HAVE A BLAST!
B

david b —
now that the blog is working again, i will return to your comment from yesterday..
if i can get to vietnam, i will go. the trip would be amazing and rewarding on many levels. working with the group i would be going with would also allow access i could never obtain on my own.
as mentioned yesterday, though, my original question was hypothetical, so i will have to see if i can work things out financially and otherwise.
you brought up nachtwey — in one of my journalism courses (where i was the lone photojournalist in a class otherwise full of writers), a presentation on journalists we respect and admire quickly turned into a battle of ethics when i brought in nachtwey’s “inferno” to share.
i suppose that is why i was interested on how others choose/justify one project over another.
..
yes, i am in the US — jackson hole, wy — which brings up that if anyone ever pops in for photography at the summit, say hi (jodi cobb, bill allen, chris johns, and a number of other notables, will be here in october, but no DAH this time..)

Sidney –
LMAO at the description.. but yeah..
I haven’t traveled extensively around smaller areas of Montana and Idaho, but having lived in and out of Jackson for the past 24 years, I can picture being in the area in the 70s.
Jackson is not nearly the same as it was when I originally moved here, and there is a lot of money in town now, but there are those of us that just live, work, and struggle to get by in an area we love, too.
The town has character.

Incidentally, Alicia… talking about Jackson, and your mentioning the Summit photo meeting… if there are any academically inclined young folks out there, a fascinating topic for a master’s thesis would be: “The Influence of National Geographic Magazine on the History and Development of Jackson Hole, WY: Images and the Lure of an American Shangri-La”. ‘Nuff said.

Sidney —
YES!!
(Ansel Adams, anyone?)
:D

also, extra love for
Sidney,
Alicia and
Akaky today…

Hello David & All,

David: first off, thank you for the invitation tonight.
I have plans with my girl but I’ll try to make it before you close the doors ;)

Bob B: I read your story about the NG mag and your son and, after looking at the Nairobi link, I remembered seeing it also. In fact, it was my Dad (he loved this country) that told me about it back then!
Talk about how this “bigger-than-we-think-blog” flows…

Gina, Jean, etc:
Thanks for your welcome.

Cheers to all,
Tanguy.

andrew b —
soonly. i promise. there is a large amount of scanning, editing, webbing, and such going on right now. i am going to lose one computer for about a week, but that should force me to use my old computer which still has my web design programs and such.. if not, i’ll make a link work somehow.
~alicia

lol. just watched the youtube video… maybe now is the time to leave for my ‘real’ job.. lol. good laughing with you all this morning. :)

from Andrew S

I won’t be there tonight unfortunately. Please send DAH my best. I am now at the airport in Salvador, Brazil on my way home after almost 3 weeks on the road. Great trip, some good pictures and most importantly, many stories to tell.

Today i clean my darkroom, not used since a very long time. I want to make prints with old negatives…Don’t want to start a useless debate about digital/film issues;

Only i need to find again this aspect of photography, this way to process pictures, a more spiritual way to me than a computer.

love

Wow…David McG…..that song brings back so many memories….I had that album way back when….

MIKE R

If you show your wife this pic I lap shot at a concert tonight, maybe she’ll let you try it too ;=)

http://www.pbase.com/windchimewalker/image/103367536

ALL

The concert where I took the photo linked to above was a FANTASTIC experience of hearing compositions by the Argentinian nuevo tango master Astor Piazzolla as performed by Michigan’s Oblivion Project. Check out this YouTube clip of the master playing with his quintet:

Ain’t NOTHIN’ sexier than tango music!!!

Patricia

At this moment it’s 2:45 AM in New York and I’ll bet David’s Fiesta has entered Phase Three, with only the serious drinkers and the people who never know when to leave still hanging on. For those of us not at the Fiesta or entangled with Significant Others, here is a little global trivia: if you followed Patricia’s link to the youtube clip of Astor Piazzola and his Quinteto Tango Nuevo, you probably noticed it had Japanese subtitles and came off of Japanese TV. What those of you who haven’t lived in Japan may not realize is that after Argentina and Uruguay, Japan is the third most important country in the world for the tango… yes, there are dozens of tango orchestras and hundreds of professional tango dancers and teachers, as well as thousands of serious amatuers both playing and dancing. There are specialized tango composers as well. They take tango seriously in Japan, and have for at least three generations. Does this alter slightly your perception of Japanese culture?

We hear a lot about coffee on this forum, the need for it, the fact that we haven’t had it yet, the fact that we are spilling it on our screens and keyboards, the fact that our espresso maker needs a new gasket. And late Saturdy morning, or early Saturday afternoon, whenever he wakes up, I’m sure David Alan Harvey will be no exception. I confess that I too am a coffee adict, although what’s worse is I’m a cafe au lait addict… I try to limit myself to two cups a day but often go for a third. So here’s the global-consciousness trivia question for this evening… what country has by far the highest per capita consumption of coffee in the world? Where do they jolt themselves with more java than anywhere else on the planet??? The first person who can answer correctly will receive a prize… I have no stock of camera bags to give away, but I used to teach geography and I still have a stash of fairly exotic maps… I will send you an interesting map if you know the answer! (Now where’s the coffepot…?) Hint: this time, it isn’t Japan.

sidney… kyunghee…

:)))

i wish i was a fin. i could then say things like:

“hi, i’m anton. i’m a Fin. want coffee?”

(ok back to work now, anton. playtime’s over :-)

Heh, I’m a Finn… it’s mostly tons of coffee to fight the hangovers… btw, it seems that I’ll stay for longer in Cardiff, I just hope that my shooting doesn’t transform into life long projects ;-)

KYUNGHEE

맞습니다! 축하 드립니다! 재미있는 지도를 보내 드릭겠읍니다. 세계 여러나라들중, 호기심이 있는곳은 어딥니까? 일본에는 언제까지 계시겠읍니까? 부산으로 보내 드리면 좋을까? 주소를 이멜로 알려 주십시오. satkins@telcomplus.net

제가 사는곳, 벨링햄이라는작은도시, 미국에 있으면서도 밴쿠버시에서 멀지 않는데 사흘동안이나 나흘동안이나 자주 왔다갔다 다니고 있어요. 친애하는 옛날 친구도 있고, 동양사람들 많아요. 깨다가 밴쿠버의 음식이 이마을보다 훨씬 맛있어요.

Yes, Kyunghee is correct! I don’t know how you Finns do it, but the Finns drink twice as much coffee as the French and the Italians, and nearly three times as much as Americans! All the Scandinavian countries are high on the list, but Finland is off the charts. Maybe everybody in Europe knows this… but I wonder how many people in America do?

Morning ALL

I know DAH is awake post-fiesta because the workshop participants gathered at 10 am..ouch, I was still sleeping till recently..

Wonderful night..I took notes :) and will report back as soon as the tea caffeine kicks in and I eat something..

DAVID B

thank you for the Gibran words, am finally willing to see work as the wonderful extension of divinity that it can be..

JEAN

thank you..I so wish I had been more serious about photography during my GD days…with the number of shows i attended I could have made a serious archive, but I think I only brought the camera to 3 shows; still the memories are permanent.

KYUNGHEE

am really looking forward to meeting you post workshop at the next fiesta

LASSAL

thank you for the information about your illustration work, I guess I had missed that at some point..very interesting.

A group of us went to dinner before the fiesta last night, and with the bill came a postcard from the restaurant..the moment it landed on the table I knew I had to send it to you for the Stranger’s Wish..

BTW, did you see my post to you about Sophie Calle?

MORE SOON…

Hangul is a pretty alphabet, ain’t it? In any case, boys and girls, I am shooting a birthday party today, a quinceanera, if I’m spelling that right, which more or less constitutes my first major paycheck from picture taking (that I didnt charge enough is evidenced by the fact that I have lost a ton of money getting ready for this thing, what with buying gear I didnt have and what all) and I need everyone to think happy thoughts to counter the tsunamis of negativity I’ll be generating all by my lonesome. I wish I could do the happy, optimistic, upbeat, everything’s going to turn out all right thing, but it’s just not me, I’m afraid.

LASAAL

it is here

http://davidalanharvey.typepad.com/road_trip/2008/09/new-york-loft-w/comments/page/1/#comments

http://www.pbase.com/windchimewalker/image/103367536

nice photo Pat.
:-)

1:00pm… West Coast…
it seems that NY is still hangovered..
No news from the east coast reporters yet…
no reportage from last nights fiesta…
hmmmm… waiting !

no its turkey….
turkish coffee….

ALL….

i cannot see that we are being hacked, but there was definitely something wrong with Typepad a couple of days ago….however, i do not know really what to look for…maybe some of you do…and maybe some of you know the best way to “save/backup” the blog…Tom Hyde had offered to back it up a few months ago , but i do not know if it is still happening…

the only thing i did internally was to delete the 12 repetitive posts of David B. and the 8 of my own…i have not touched anything else…

if you suspect hacking or know how to stop it, please let me know…it would be a shame to lose all that we have done….

i will let someone else who was at the slide show last night report..

are any of you up yet???

cheers, david

david

downloaded sitesucker and am downloading all the posts/comments here to backup. will find a way to do this daily from now on… too important…
it’s in html format so no “restoring” the blog possible, but at least posts & comments are backed up…

here’s the link what you can do from within your control panel for typepad:
http://support.typepad.com/cgi-bin/typepad.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=300&p_created=1144341733&p_sid=5YF8Tmej&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MyZwX3Byb2RzPSZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9YmFja3Vw&p_li=&p_topview=1

cheers
anton

ANTON

You really “walk your talk.” Thank you, dear friend, for backing up this valuable resource. We sure don’t want to lose any of it, and thanks to you, now we won’t…

I seriously doubt if we were hacked mainly because some of us were affected and others not. For instance I had no problems until late last night when I tried to access the blog and got a message that said typepad was temporarily down. All was well this morning. But I’m used to that with PBase.com. No big deal.
BTW I think your idea about typepad getting confused because this thread had no title is right on.

Patricia

OKAY report coming..

Will do my best, but do try to picture a darkened room lit only by the screen while I tried to scribble notes on a tiny pat, and simultaneously attempted to sit on the floor in a small party dress, in a somewhat demure way…so forgive me DAH if I scramble anyone’s words..

KELLY, KIRSTEN, NANCY and JF and his wife SUSAN and I met ahead of time for dinner at The Diner, which, though at some point it may have been a diner, is now more of a swank hangout..drink and food was lovely, as was the conversation..then over to DAHs

When we arrived a dry run or something was happening for the slideshow, and the party was upstairs in the loft..lots of happy faces, chatting, drinking as is expected. If you haven’t been, there are STACKS of amazing, often signed, photo books all around, which many people flip through and discuss; and then I can’t help but move the cast offs back to their piles, away from all the beer bottles..I finally met sweet ANNA B, and we caught up quickly and naturally; she was tired of course, but full..

The slideshow was ready, we all moved downstairs..the long hall that lead to the room was lined with large prints from the photographers who took the workshop, a teaser.

The room filled, most of us on the floor, and David started off the evening, saying it is hard for the emerging photographer to photograph his own life, but that is what he asks of us. That everyone says they want freedom but that they don’t know what to do with it once they have it..that at the workshop, he wants to offer the students their freedom, with support.

David said he saw Eugene when he was younger, and he immediately understood that he would be a key person in his life, someone that showed david that it was possible for him to go after his own freedom.

EUGENE: David got me here again..

He started talking about his story Cocaine True, Cocaine Blue, that he initiated for Life Magazine, but he had to continue it on his own..said he can’t stop till it’s done.

98% of the people he photographed are now dead from overdosing, from AIDS..people with whom he built trust and wonderful relationships.

EUGENE: I sort of mumble around into photographs..

He showed an image of a woman that he said spoke t no one, but who wrote lengthy ;etter to God..she was murdered..

He showed an image of a large man holding up his guns, and said people often ask how he got that shot..

EUGENE: He asked me to take it, and he isn’t someone you argue with… :)

PAUSE for SUSHI…will return xo

HIGH REZ
HIGH REZ
HIGH REZ

http://gallery.me.com/innerspacecowpanos#100227&view=mosaic&sel=0

ERICA,

You have to stop eating :):):)…I cannot wait to read the end of the report….

Seems like another wonderful and magical night…Gene and Jim are very special individuals…wish I had been there….

We want more Erica….no more cookies!!!!!

Eric

DAH is introducing Bruce Gilden

DAH: Bruce Gilden is not someone I know so well. I’m thinking when Bruce goes to Alaska, I can’t wait to see what he’ll do..

BRUCE: I’m not going to Alaska anymore, I’m going to…

DAH: See, I said I don’t him so well…He attacks people with his camera, we all love them (the images)

BRUCE: We don’t ALL love them!

DAH: But he’s the warmest, nicest, family guy, a humanist..

BRUCE: You better stop NOW!

Bruce comes to the front to start his slideshow, DAH sits down

DAH: Take as much time as you want..

BRUCE: Of course I will; you think I’m gonna listen to you?

So this is the man, funny, in your face, playful and breathing his own sort of interconnectedness into the room.

He says in 1968 he started photographing, and took to heart what Capa said, if it’s not good enough, you’re not close enough. He works on long, extended projects, but gave his narration of the same in quick spotty bursts.

So here on the screen is the image of a man on the beach, holding up a basketball with one finger. Bruce says, I used to be really good at basketball, I could jump crazy high, but I could never have done that. I watched this guy for over a minute, holding that ball, and I finally got up the nerve to go over to him and ask about it (this I find oddly paradoxical, this man of incredible nerve, finding difficulty in the approach) and of course the answer was that there was a hole in the ball…

BRUCE: For someone who doesn’t like to talk to people, I strike up a lot of converstations. It’s because I’m comfortable with THESE kind of people.

BRUCE: I believe when you go to a new place, photograph right away, because it’s fresh for you. I have a schedule when I photograph, I wake up early and go out and shoot, have breakfast and then go out again.

BRUCE: My pictures are symbolic; I like the viewer to make up little stories about them.

Now in the slideshow it’s 1984, and he’s shooting NYC, and he still is..

BRUCE: Backgrounds are very important for me..”

These bits of information come peppered in between quirky commentary, possibly irreverent at times, potentially the kinds of musings that might make you wince a little if you are unaccustomed to his breed of humor, but are tempered with fine art references..In a short slideshow, he alluded to Gaugin, Chagall and Bacon.

BRUCE: I have to live with these pictures, so I have to make up stories about them.

To me, the photos seem as if they are effortless outcroppings, but Bruce reveals about an image of a man lying on the sidewalk among the legs of passerbys, that it took him about a half of an hour to get the shot. He said he had to keep jumping up and going back down to the ground, because if he had laid down, the people would have gone around him too and he wanted them in the frame.

Interestingly, he said he sometimes brought his subjects bottles of drink; Sake when he was working on GO.

At the end of his slideshow, to Bruce

DAH: That was absolutely perfect.

One more installment..

Thank you
ERIC…
i really thank you for the feed back…!

OK ERICA….I understand!!!!

I am sitting here actually exhausted after a long day…just waiting for the next post from you….love the detailed reporting….just warn me…should I stay up all night and get myself cookies as well????

Eric

Lassal,

Yes, it all works out in the end.

DAH, sometimes you totally flip me with your comments. You are a really, really good guy and the best teacher I have ever had.

I am back in Arkansas; arrived Friday a.m. after an overnight flight and arrival at 7:50 a.m. Off balance, crashing for four hours, spending the rest of the day in a haze, wondering why I am here.

Then I wake up this morning and see his smile and know.

I am back at bachelor #1’s home, out in the country with the most wonderful light and air. Left my ex-husband in Maui, after only three days visit–first time I have seen him since March. I am beginning to realize the nature of love–minus the constraints of boxes formed from childhood. Love, don’t you just love it?

I have not been able to keep up with the comments due to traveling but the brief overview I do in airports and now kind of fill me in.

Oh, by the way, I bought a Dodge Charger, and it is so hot! Black, sleek and stealth. I hit 100 mph in two car lengths and didn’t even know it–thought I was going maybe 80. The car salesman in the back was whooping and hollering and was so excited that we actually hit 100 on an interstate during rush hour. Can’t wait to pick her up on Monday. The Black Leopard….to travel the highways of the mainland when I visit.

I am coming to NYC on October 3 (not by car as it is a long drive and the parking is awful) and really look forward to the show of student work and meeting Bob Black and his family and whomever else is going. Lost track of who is going but really looking forward…

Lee

DAH: Marie asked me awile ago why not offer my workshop at home, and I thought to make it the kind of workshop that I wished I could have taken. So that’s what I do now, and I have 12 students here with me in my home..It’s gotta be one of the hardest workshops anyone can take. I don’t tell them to do anything, I just mirror who they are. They have 4 to 5 shooting days, which come down to 3 days of misery, to 2 days of shooting because they have 3 days of musing, figuring out what to do. This was the tardiest class, late, truant…but let’s see what they did. I’m proud of them.

Right off the bat I was stuck that in some pieces there was audio now, recorded by the photographer, embracing the whole move toward MM. The work was everything from playful to tight to gorgeous to dreamy to intimate and amazing with a sadness and an almost theatrical sense of disconnectedness. Here in last bit of my running sentence, I’m talking aboutthe powerful work of one fine photographer named Ashe..Dah said later of this work that it was “incredibly interpretive”. In the moments when I watched DAH watching the slideshows, I saw his joyful bouncing dance, I saw a happy man..caring, concerned and engaged..

DAH: I couldn’t really leave the building during the workshop, someone could freak out at any point and call or come back, and I had to be here for them..

One of the photographers the house seemed to enjoy was Nicholas, who seemingly has found a great influence in Gilden. His series, I believe, was called Wall Street Paranoia. I checked out Bruce as he watched this, if I am not mistaken, I think I saw a toss of the head, and a smile..afterwards, I talked with Bruce about N’s work briefly, he handed an economical compliment, saying that N was good with the foreground..’you know, like putting a pole in front of someone’…

What more? I got a kiss on the cheek from Eugene, shared a brief glass of bubbly with his beautiful wife. Got to hang out more with Anna B, and my dear Mike. Got to talk more with lurker Joel (come out of hiding!) who I first met at LOOK, and the view from the roof was beautiful and clear. A perfect night, really…wish you ALL could have been there.

ERICA

We WERE/ARE all there…because of you and your wonderful narrative! Knowing how impossible it would ever be for me to get up those stairs to DAH’s loft, it is particularly sweet for me to see, hear and feel it all through your yes, ears and heart. Thank you, dear one, for sharing this precious gift with all of us here on the blog.

Patricia

Patricia,

There is an elevator. I don’t remember any area that you could not navigate at DAH’s loft. Unless he moved into another one that has stairs–seems like I remember something about him getting another apartment when he moved back in…?

Lee

PANOS…

“Dark Kids”…damn…you keep doing it!!

you remain the best example here on this forum of staying loose…i can’t wait to help you edit this work…there is such a fine line between loose and sloppy, art and snapshot, detached and sentimental…you are walking all of the “fine lines” and some might have a hard time with your work and not see the difference between a snapshot and an exquisite photograph in your offerings ..but i do….

just terrific new work….

cheers, david

SEAN…

i swear i cannot find the Olympic Nights piece..post again please please??

DAVID…

THANK GOODNESS YOU didn’t shoot it :)) !!! I’m sure Mike won’t be offended by this but I did not see anywhere that this was not YOUR work and if pressed I was going to have to tell you that this was the weakest work I’d ever seen of YOURS…especially since I had just looked at the Nairobi work before seeing it! haha ;0)

As student work it’s great though! Way to go Mike…
Whew…

DAVID again…

I looked again and see his name is on the title page but didn’t know who he is or the story behind why his movie is there…so for all I knew (without your explanation) he was the one who was being photographed or something like that. Maybe it should say Blues, Booze… BY Michael Young. Especially since it’s on YOUR movie page with the writing by YOU. Needs some clarification I think…

Not for us but for others who may find it.

oh and PANOS…

My favorite “dark kid” is #3.

CATHY…

OMG Cathy, it most clearly says exactly what it should say and exactly what you say it should say: Blues, Booze and BBQ by Michael Loyd Young….how more clear could it be???

CATHY…

“A Time Not Here” sits on my coffee table at all times

CATHY…

oh, now i see what you mean..or think you mean…the word “by” is not actually there typographically..is that what you mean??

well, as i look at my book collection i do not see the word “by” on anyone’s book..there ARE some assumptions in authorship…

i am looking right now at:

“For Whom the Bell Tolls”
Ernest Hemingway

do you think that title pages implies the book is ABOUT Hemingway???

ok, to bed…but, i will return to fight another day!!!

peace, david

David….Here’s the link again….

http://www.gallagher-photo.com/content/popup/OlympicNights/index.html

This work isn’t related at all really to my environmental work, but was more of a ‘something to keep me busy’ whilst the Olympics was on. I always like to working on SOMETHING, otherwise I get a little restless!

Hope you enjoy.

Best,
Sean

DAVID,

I happened across your post regarding backup somewhere above.

I have things backed up until about two weeks ago … small lapse and i am on the road right now, literally … but yes, I am still on it and as i wrote sometime ago, i really should not be the only one doing this for history’s sake. Michael C? Man, keeping up here is not easy … I suspect it is as hard to keep up with you as it is this blog ;-))

mmmm, greek coffee and … what the hell are these sweets, taste like crap … but i love the coffee, go figure?

cheers,
young tom on syros

“A perfect night, really…wish you ALL could have been there.”

ERICA,

Thank you soooo much for the report. It was kind of being there too!! You were relating the friendly chatting, the things you shared…. just great!
Sure you had a great night there, and sure we all would have loved to be with you too!

Thanks DAH for make it happen ;-) and hope someday I can be one of the present persons there!!

Hugs

Ana

I like; Smirnoff Zubrowka Absolut Chopin Bols and Siwucha but this one you don’t buy in any shop only polisch highlanders make it (best way to loose your mind).
I dissuade “finlans” should’nt bear wather to Lake we say in poland :)
but mostly I prefer rum and gin.
ahoy sailors :)

äh … Marcin,
is that one single name???
“Smirnoff Zubrowka Absolut Chopin Bols” ??
:)))
So this one or the mind loosing one??

:)))
MARCIN …

If they loose their mind they might throw me out of the house in the middle of a freezing finnish night… Too dangerous!

And Riitta is a photographer too – met her in Tuscany on DAH’s workshop. She should not get blind either …

Hmmm…
So what do I do?? :)))))

ALL

Anybody else knows of a SAFE (!) vodka that is kinda good? :))
Riitta & Sampsa have to:

1. survive
2. stay sane
3. not get blind
4. enjoy it

ERICA, MARTIN …

let me come back to the commercial photography thing later … I would like to formulate this a little better so no missunderstanding comes up.

Frozen Stoli , Gherkins and Rye Bread , Sunday night ritual round our house.

ERICA,
nice job on your friday night report, a cool and thorough job (waw, you sure took notes!) ;)))
How was the “after-fiesta?”

I left too early (had to wake up at 5:30am + I didn’t know anyone & seemed that groups were already well into each other), and missed James N., though I talked a while with Stanley Greene about a common friend (& his recent work :)

Great thing you have going there David! Thanks.

Going to Fire I. Have a great sunday ALL!
Tanguy.