one of the best post it is.
I wish to see some photos but I know I have to wait.

DAH – just got caught up on the previous blog. I read that you wanted to meet Eric at The Park – FYI – the bar is now gone. They changed it a bit. Breakfast is in a different location too. But no lounge area anymore. Just wanted you to know….

GINA….

why in the world did they take that bar area away??? nice “hang” spot….

AUDREY…ERIC…

ok, now no place to meet!! hmmmmm, well, just meet me in the Park Hotel lobby at 5:30pm wednesday and we will find a coffee shop somewhere…

ALL…

ok, i am “off” until i get to France tomorrow morning…and even then i will be “on” very little…

Perpignan gang…in case you missed my note, let’s try to meet about 12 noon sunday Cafe le Poste for breakfast meeting…then go to the beach to get over whatever happens to us at the saturday night fete…

we will run into each other all over the place, but that is the best i can think of for a PLAN….or is “plan” even a real word at Perpignan??

cheers, au revoir, david

OK for me, for tomorrow and for Sunday !! Attention all, the sea is very cold!!
à très bientôt, audrey

Dear David,

My mother passed away in the early hours of this morning after an illness which has slowly destroyed her since January. It was peaceful and painless at home with her family at her bedside.

I just want to say that your post put a much needed smile on my face during what is a very very sad day.

Thank You.

Cheers,

Justin

JUSTIN…

i just came back for a quick “peek” and saw your note…

please know that my heart is with you in the loss of your mother…we should all be so blessed as to have our families at our side when it is time to go…

you are a fine man indeed…and i am sure you give credit to your parents for much of who you are…

a warm hug and love, david

david

have a safe flight

running for my ticket now, hope everything will work out. will call u when i arrive on sat eve

peace

While studying in Israel I once ended up as a guest for shabat lunch in a hasidic home in Sefad and despite my being jewish I had no idea of how to behave. The man was very pious and serious but at a certain point he broke in a wide smile so warm the feeling was “i would just like to see him smile one more time…”.
Does it have anything to do with the deep commitment to a faith?

I’ve seen now that the meeting is for Audrey and Eric. They qre not stqying for the evening;
So we can meet later. May be with the other the 4 evening in Le castillet.
I’ve seen a lot of exhibition.. some of them impressive, some remarquable some other less… but everything here is so interesting. Also slideshow and meeting with photographer tailing their story

JUSTIN, I’m so sorry to hear of your troubles. Nothing anyone can say is ever adequate at a time like this, so my heart goes out to you and your family.

JUSTIN

Your post brought tears to my eyes.
Sending you a huge hug.

Anna B.

hola david

i just want to say for justin sorry man but is good to know that your family was there thats the way that good people pass away
good bless you justin

D A H

jeeeezzz. you made me want to real off a long.. long and slightly magical story.. amazing to be able to see what no other could.. have an experience which no amount of money could buy.. something new, every day.. a fitting mantra for a good mind.

love the landlord.. just the kind of guy it’s a pleasure to do business with.. for rent at least.

fingers crossed for the snaps.. i have only ever photoed weddings for friends and they have always been a gas.. a real treat and privilege..

okay.. lasagna for dinner.. must save digression until another time.. when perhaps i will bring up the emperor of unique experiences – coincidence..
ahh.. how coincidence has fed, nurtured and taught through unimaginable situations which could never have been planned.

PEP people.. safe travels and see you next year.

love to all.

Justin,

I am sorry to hear of the loss of your mother.
We should be ready for that, but we never are and never will.

DAVID B.

Yes, coincidence…don’t you LOVE it?
What would life be without coincidence?

AUDRAY …
:))) Yesss! Friday 16:00!!

PERPIGNAN CREW
unfortunately I cannot tell if I can be there on sunday later on the day because we are leaving on sunday and …we have a hotel on our way somewhere (cannot check it right now because Tony booked it and he is sound asleep.

Just met Gina today in front of the Park and Sean in Pams. It is always amazing to meet people in person … You have never met before but know so much about each other and can go right on talking … By the way Gina is wonderful and Sean absolutely great, too. We spent some hours in the (new?) meetingpoint/bar at Hotel Pams and … needless to say he is really doing his thing – very focussed, very straightforward, very positive, very professional. A great guy and I hope you will meet him.
We just stopped shortly to meet Gina as our paths went different ways this afternoon, but we will be seeing each other tomorrow night after the show in this very famous “mail” cafe. By the way it is really not to be missed… right next to the castle like “castillet”. Don’t worry, you will find it.

The conference center is still half empty… About a third of the agencies are ready to roll, a third is building up and a third has not shown up yet. Canon is still installing their hardware so I could not test their A3 printers today. Will try to do so tomorrow.

It got a little fuller today than it was yesterday. It was good to end up seeing all the exhibitions before it gets too crowded. Especially the upper floor of the Couvent des Minimes. All small windows closed, not enough oxygen, very warm and… the most upsetting pictures! For the first time I felt a little sick of my stomach … and I know not which of the factors were responsible. Probably all of them. In fact … i had in my bag this little pseudo-documentation of Mosocho and Kisumo (december 2006), and I saw this one picture on the wall of a lot of bodies in a morgue a very aesthetical photo… It read ” Kisumo , January 11, 2008. Thousands of Kikuyus, members of Kenya’s largest tribe, disappeared from Kisumo, making it the first city to be ethnically cleansed. Victims of post-electoral violence are seen at the morgue.”
You could not see faces and I was so thankful for that … after all I got to know quite a lot of them – wonderful, nice, good people … like the rest of them … at the end of 2006 when everybody was so full of hope and positive about their future and the future of the country.

And I remember I have not been able to reach any of them after the riots… Only some Kisii at Mosocho. I thought the internet was not accessible … but now I think otherwise … If the town was “cleaned” then there is nobody left… Or almost nobody…

Damn it!!!!!

I leave you now for today…

love and hugs to Justin, I have the same feelings 5 years ago when my father passed away. Very difficult even to remember.
keep the strenght…not easy I know
i am really sorry

quem sabe… :)

cheers from perpignan!

quem sabe… :)

cheers from perpignan!

quem sabe… :)

cheers from perpignan!

quem sabe… :)

cheers from perpignan!

JUSTIN……

i am so sorry to hear about your mom’s death and if it were in my power to swallow some of your own grief, surely each of us would, just as each of your family members now must share and swallow and carry one another….but know this too…you are not alone…

there is little i can do to offer comfort but maybe to offer some words of condolescences and light…

as Akaky wrote, it is impossible for me, for any of us really, to lighten grief, to fill you with something that will ballast all the sadness and emptiness that at the moment you and the rest of your family is enduring. But, i want to just tell you a small and simple thing:

you are not alone.

That you mother was well loved by you and your family means that though you shall no longer be able to see her or listen to her or touch her, please rest assured that she has not, not for a moment, left you: she know lives inside you, thrives and sings and enlightens you, all the corners and cornices of your body and your heart and your life, for those we love do not leave us, but simply transform. I know it, at this time, is small comfort but please no that in a sense you mom is not within you in that place that she shall never be able to venture far or from which you will no longer be able to depart…in the space of the size of you heart…

my father once told me, long ago, that i would never understand anything, not a simple damn thing until the moment either he or my mom would die. I am here to tell you that you are sadder today, but you are stronger and wiser than I and you must share that strength and the wisdom, all that light that your mom fed you with, must share that, must take that grief and stone-quarry sadness and speak out into the world of what you now know…that your grief can become love lit large for all of those who loved your mom and all the places and spaces she touched…

you were born fit for this, she gave you that extraordinary gift…

those we love die, but they do not disappear: we become them, just as we were of them to begin with…

in this moment of grief, i send you love and light and hugs from me and marina and dima…and please no that you are not alone…wearied, but you are now stronger…

sing out to your mom, her voice is your voice now…

all the best, and love from the 3 of us…

bob

SUBHRAJIT BASU… said:

1. for the very first time…
2. commitment….
3. babies etc…

wonder what comes next!!! :)

Posted by: Subhrajit Basu | September 02, 2008 at 04:10 PM

Hey S.B… ;-)))))

XXX , comes next… or comes FIRST…
because with no XXX…
there is no BABIES… and with NO Babies… no particular reason
for COMMITMENT…!!!!!!!!!
make sense????
again, ;-))))))))

… maybe AKAKY or HERVE can help resolve all that…
peace…
ps:remember…xxx, first… because NO SEX, NO LIFE…
stopped driving for the day…

I think the photos don’t really matter. Its the experience. Even with our “usual mistakes” witnessing what you did and as you said, being the only one to see it that way, well thats all you need. I’m sure the photos will be what they need to be. That’s all you can ask for.

but, i know, i know… as my friend Martin G.. would say…
“well… there is a Nikon for that….”

so what … fuck Nikon too…
don’t USE cameras…. shoot with your mind…
fuck exhibitions and FAME and acceptance and rewards and money..
we are people… not horses… people stop looking for that little “sugarcube”… god damn it… get INVOLVED or live in the shadow !!!

Really.. what if ( sci-fi 60’s scenario )… some day… technology
would allow us to transmit photos ( bluetooth-like) to each other,
without printing or needing walls or this or that…
( i hope CANON or MICROSOFT wont get this “scenario” that seriously…)…
what if, one day , we wont need the “right cameras” anymore…
no,no… only the “right angle”….

anyways… to be honest… the “name” of the “thing” i’m “smoking”
right now … is something like “northern lights”,… or something..
peace and love…;-))))))))

Hi all,
Here is the link of an interview of Paolo Pellegrin à Visa
http://www.photographie.com/?pubid=105067&secid=2&rubid=8

On this site, every day is put on-line the meetings of Visa for the Image
http://www.photographie.com/magazine/publication/105083/fr/
I hope to see you all next year…

Lassal, I shall be there also!!!

and while everybody is drinking and having fun,
in Perpignan… we are here … working, shooting, posting , sharing….
so try this link below and click “slideshow”…
way more fun..
( ALL… IM JUST TRYING TO STAY ON THE SPIRIT OF THE LAST TWO POSTS…
COMMITMENT AND WEDDINGS,… SO THERE YOU HAVE IT…
HERE IS MY WEDDING….

MY “BLUE” BLACKBERRY WEDDING….

http://gallery.me.com/innerspacecowpanos#100156&view=mosaic&sel=0

for big, fat , GREEK or CHINESE monitors… please click the link above…

( peace, for Tibet… lovely olympics… NOW WHAT?????? )

oh… i forgot to mention the WALL…

SEPARATING THE MEN AND THE WOMEN:

That was a Monday Wedding… somewhere in West Los Angeles… last monday… august 2008…
very soon into the wedding…
i noticed a “blue” blackberry going around…
( the VOWS were written on it… and other religious stuff… ???? – like i know..
you know…! )
oh by the way… on more thing…
the men ( male ) and the women ( females )
had a WALL between them… not allowed to mix…
very interesting….

again:

http://gallery.me.com/innerspacecowpanos#100156&view=mosaic&sel=0

click on the “slideshow” and enjoy…
and do not forget … all that and much more…
happened , ONLY 40 blocks from VENICE BEACH…
peace and love to all in PERPIGNAN right now…

where is the LIVE REPORTAGE…???????????? 24/7..???????
C’MON PEOPLE…!!!!!!!!!
we are ALL EARS…!

RAFAL…
thank you for the question…
to go back in a way, way way previous post…
about carrying the camera around all the time or NOT…
well… honestly…
i dont even go to the bathroom without the camera…
a camera… any camera… it has to be something…
even a cellphone….

THERE IS NO REASON … THAT I COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE…
THAT WOULD MAKE ME STOP SHOOTING…
i really thank you again Rafal for your question,
and im waiting for your thoughts… how much do you shoot?
do you carry the “thing” with you…? or you plan…?
or both ??? or , do you have a different way… ??? of planning your photo time.. or should i just say:… your “time”…
whatever that means ?????
peace!

One thing though, I dont think you can plan much ahead. I had a very concise idea for a photo yesterday – light, location, framing….but when I got there it didnt work…and instead I got a totally different result, something I wasnt planning.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/2820518055_b31f42247c_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/2821376960_327f113e29_o.jpg

While I do plan ahead (I know sort of what I need to round out my Riverside project) it can only go so far.

and here is the electronic eye as it is today..
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vJQvjWBhvnw/SJoW_vw5G2I/AAAAAAAABSg/XakKG9F5g1Y/s1600-h/news.2008.1004.jpg

i’m sold on anything that has the word ‘bionic’ in it’s name..
human upgrades
COME ON>

DAVID,

What a great post….”For the very first time” is a gorgeous sensation. Beeing there, amazed at being amazed, feeling like a child… I just love that.
And the great thing is that somebody that lives so alive every minute, moving around the world without no stop, can still feel like a child and get inmerse in new stories. life is amazing. There is always new things ready to surprise us.

JUSTIN,

I’m really sorry…

DAVID & PERPIGNAN CROWD

Like Lassal, I don’t know if I can make it for sunday at 12 as I have to drive back on sunday…. but we’ll see… Maybe if the meeting is earlier than 12’00 it would be better for me…

I’m enjoying all the comments from the people already at Perpignan. I’m still in Madrid and will drive up there this afternoon. No way to arrive early so I will have to wait till tomorrow to meet you all. Still ‘on schedule’ the meeting at Le Poste in the evening?

Hugs

Ana

DAH

I am so happy to hear of not only of your opportunity (and I do hope Marie was also blessed to shoot on the women’s side) but of your new connection with the smiling Nachman. How very sweet this must have been to receive the yes, and then to experience it as more than you would have imagined..

JUSTIN

Perhaps the most helpful thing someone told me after my father passed away is that although there is no normal amount of time to grieve, it is often longer than you would expect. There may come a time when you feel you should be functioning more as ‘yourself’, but you just can’t or aren’t ready..try to be gentle with yourself..

PANOS

about the thing that moves..tape it down?

and for ALL

but especially for you,

take a look at the fascinating 82-year-old Czech photographer Miroslav Tichy, now known for his images of women, taken with self-made cameras..his ‘norm’ was to shoot 100 images a day..on film, mind you..

the man http://m1m.info/Tichy/

and the work http://m1m.info/Tichy/planche1.htm

ALL..if you are in NYC tomorrow, see you there..

INVASION 68 PRAGUE
Photographs by Josef Koudelka

Opening Reception—Pace/MacGill Gallery: Thursday, September 4, 4:00–6:00 p.m.
Opening Reception—Aperture Gallery: Thursday, September 4, 6:00–8:00 p.m.

All,
I still could’nt meet any of you, Audrey I’M SENDING AN SMS BU IF YOU READ THIS, Paolo Pellegrin is here at the second floor of the Palais de Congres, if you want to meet him. I’ll be at the preview of “la vida” Loca3 at 4.30 p.m.
Today at 6 p.m. I think there is a LS meeting at Place de la Republique.
Is anyone of you going there?

ahh man – this is going to go all PEP for the next week.. wishing i was there.

it is great to here whats going on there.. sounds superb.. somone take some snaps and post them if you get the chance, if only to help us non-PEP people hook into the vibe.

enjoy all..

Jorge P..
Yes .. a nikon and a zeiss.. true..

Erica…
totally.. I should stop whining like an infant..
and start taping things down..
;-)))

Koudelka show.. Damnnn! I’m missing that too..!

Michael R..
Yes M9 and M10 and M11..
Yes I want them all..
You see I have a rangefinder addiction..
Just like Mike..
Or just like Erica and Wrobert when it comes
To larger formats…
Addictions..? Or way of seeing things..
But there I go..
Start whining again..
:-))))
Goodmorning y’all …

PANOS,
Some of the first shots with the Nokton 35/1.2. http://martinbrink.blogspot.com/2008/08/ttekulla.html
Amazing lens for film because I find the need for speed greater with film..
So far I like it!
As for rangefinders, one minute I love ’em the next the other way around :)

Cheers

damn..
Everyone’s off today…
Keep on driving on!!!

Good evening all, or here on Maui good morning,

Justin, my condolences.

I have been trying to keep up with the comments but there are so many and i got behind while working on this essay, Personal Demons and a Bachelor.

I am ready submit a link. It has been festering and scaring me for too long. Regardless of the feedback I have to let it go. Please feel free to comment and I hope it makes sense. I am so close to the subject at this point and had such a huge body of photos to choose from for the final essay that I was very confused for a while. Here it is:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27850900@N03/sets/72157607097176405/

Thanks for looking.

Kind of wish I was in France but actually getting ready for another long trip to the mainland.

Lee

DAH, ALL, especially BOB:

I just want to say thank you so much for all the heart felt words in response to my post. As I’m certainly not a regular contributor here it means a lot to know that you are all thinking of me during this time.

And Bob, you’re right, on all accounts my friend, spot on.

DAH: yes I owe my parents everything for who I am today. My mother never stopped believing in and encouraging my work as a photographer. Two days before she died I told her that I will be dedicating the book of my East Anglian project to her. The book she will sadly never get to see.

It was planned that next week I was going to take her to see the exhibition venue for the show of this work taking place in September 2009, but time ran out….

PANOS: get yourself an M6 TTL, I think you’ll be happier in the long run, even if it means you’ll be using film. You don’t need 8000! But you don’t want a fairground carousel for a shutter speed dial.

Once again, thanks for the kinds words from everyone – they mean a lot.

Justin

Very good work Jorge. I enjoyed your capture of color. Although I like b&w I am drawn to the color and you have a good eye for it. Never been to a horse race (live in a state with no gambling or horse racing and came from a state that just recently allowed betting at horse racing) so I enjoyed the introduction and feel like I have been there.

Thanks for the look at my work and comment. Amazing huh? You are in Chile and I’m in Maui, HI USA. And it is like we are next door neighbors sharing photos.

Lee

DAVID AND ALL:

ok, so, here, as promised, is a small, small, small preview of bones…im in the middle of editing (over a week now), down to about 40 pics…i choose these randomly to show you…saving the “best” pics (whatever the fuck that means) for when I send to David on Sunday….

so, anyway…these are the small versions, low res, since im putting up temporarily at flickr…anyway…i decided to put tonight for y’all only 1 “focus” shot (there are lots more, as well as lots of very abstract stuff)…who knows what yy’all think …i will say this, i lost myself shooting it, over those 4 weeks…and, well…meant to be about my dad, dima, me, in turned out to be something else…i hope wider ;))…

again: silence for another week…some previews….

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2826658046/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2826660362/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2825822725/sizes/o/

and the last part (to avoid the anti-spam shit)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2825828159/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2826668890/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2825831391/sizes/o/

This is my first entry in this forum, but I have followed it for quite a while. The last post written by DAH is quite exceptionally mind breaking for me. What he writes about goes for me no less than right to the core of photography and life as well. The way he describes his doubts about getting pictures “good enough” for Nachman – and waiting three years before being able to make them, shows the respects that we as photographers and fellow human beings always should meet people we encounter on our way wherever we go. With respect comes openness and – as photographers – the honest and authentic pictures. We have to give of ourselves to be blessed with getting something back. In my profession as a photojournalist, we – myself included – all too often chase around after The Picture or The Story without having time to give of ourselves or treat people we meet with the necessary respect. And thus fail to come back with the strong and personal picture or story. At the same time I admit it can be very hard to always give of ourselves. Long time ago I traveled half a year in Southeast Asia encountering, meeting and photographing people every day. On the way back to Europe I had to do a 36 hours stop-over in Karachi to catch up with a connecting flight. Normally that would be a golden opportunity to go out and experiencing a new culture and photographing yet another couple of rolls (as it was back then). But I had no more to give and spend the 36 hours in the hotel room without moving anywhere. It’s not always easy, but I hope we all try to treat everybody with the same respect as comes through in DAH’s last story.

ERICA..
Sorry.. …
Yes.. I’ve seen that link…
I promise (ok I’ll try) not to whine about
Camera gear NO MORE..
Viva minimalism..
Ok.. Time to catch up with comments..

Bob:

Excelent work. Loved the abstractions, and how you deal with life and dead (at least is what I felt). Your work also reminded me my own work I did some years ago at local museum of natural history, where I documented all sort of embalmed animals and “bones” for over 3 years. B&W stuff

You are a gifted man, in every way.

Jorge

LEE…
amazing… this is the epitome of Gonzo….
YESSSSSSSS!!!!…
( just please,,,…. dont forget that I , or “us”,…or the “audience”,
has no clue of who is who or what is going on…
it needs more explanation please… but i get a feeling…
but i need more… i need to feel more… more subtitles please…
you are getting so “close”…. ) …
i want more… beautiful, dangerous approach….
you are facing the world… not hiding…
Huge potential here….
i want more…
peace

DAH said above:
“…Lassal did live up to her promise and i faced 5 dah mask wearers as i came down to the hotel lobby right after checking in..”

whatttttttttttt ???????
pictures please, photos…. someone please POST
A PHOTO WITH THE 5 DAH MASK WEARERS….!!!!!!!
what kind of fucking photography blog is this…?????
can we “see”???????, what are YOU Perpignan reporters talking
about ?????
( so jealous… right now… ;-))))))))))))))) )

“…you don’t want a fairground carousel for a shutter speed dial…”

JUSTIN.. you made me laugh…!!!
thank you… thats the word i was looking for…
“fairground carousel”….
You still have the power to make people laugh….
i told you , you are a STRONG mind… a fighter…
ok… i’m done…
neeext…!

OTTO..
it was David McG… talking about “rattling my feathers”…
laughing… :-)))))
and yes… please writ more often… you dont even have to be “provocative”… or “cool”… or “smart”… or “sexy”…
or “bringing the next BIG THING”… just “accept”… us,
we are weird sometimes… but we “need” you…
because YOU are YOU….
so please “BE YOU AND ONLY YOU”…and “we” are “all” ears….
peace

LEE…
dont get me wrong… i agree with you 100%..
i was the one talking so much shit to Sean last year ( because of a story vs photos ).. im the only one slapping the shit out of NatGeo…
for the same reason…
but let me tell you what i noticed…
Even IF YOU ARE PICASSO or HCB, or L DA VINCI or DAH or KOUDELKA… you still have to respect and embrace the audience…
make them feel… your photos still tell a story anyways…
make it stronger…
im old school… one photo , 1000 words…
i thought i was hardcore… purist… BULLSHIT…
now i wanna tell people a story… im a storyteller…
if my photos are that good and speak for themselves … more power to me …
but bullshit… if there is power in the photos that is great..
but why not enhance it…?
why not a story????
now if the photos are NO GOOD then FUCK THE STORY…
NO STORY OVER PHOTOGRAPHY…
NEVER THAT… but how about a GREAT STORY ( only if there is one ) to hug and make love to those photos…
and when i say “story”… i dont mean
an explanation manual… no, no, no…
im so eager to read BOB’S “story” of the “BONES”…
i never read it , but thats exactly what i mean….

Lee, im not asking for details.. but for “key” words..
that will make your photos “spin in my head”…

ok… taking 15 min of , to smoke and get it together…
peace

lee —
agreed: a photo should tell a story, especially as part of an essay. isn’t that part of the reason we do what we do?
however, i always thought/was taught that through captioning and added words, others could gain background details a picture didn’t always have.. BUT..
that implies the words aren’t repeating information readily gained from looking at the photos.

panos —
i love the added sound effects.. YEEP!!! :)

lol. no. just a previous ‘lurker’ wanting to add a comment.

JUSTIN

My heartfelt condolences… We all only ever have one mother, but all mothers are mothers to us all… my thoughts are with you on your loss…

BOB

Its true if you have good bones they stand the test of time indeed… Beautiful work, bruz…

ALL

Just got back from the wilds of the Top End and Central Oz… bloody hell, it was a bumpy time! Will fill you in on further developments quite soon!

Its nice to see that so many people are now a part of this place, but its almost impossible to keep up- I am just so busy looking at everyone’s work!

I think I vaguely remember in DAH’s last post that he was looking for commitments from people to some how work something out for maintaining the site, just a suggestion, but maybe we could set up something as an adjunct to this blog that could do say a monthly showcase of a photographers work?

Then all the contributors could have a month of attention/scrutiny/publicity all for themselves when they felt ready?

I am just having a really hard time keeping up with the work being shown via the blog, while its quite organic and I love that I know I am missing heaps and If I could just go to one place and see the photographers work develop over a month long period rather than sifting through 700 blogs entries, then I reckon I would see more effectively…

Whaddya reckon?

Cheers

Lisa

I agree with you Lisa. I sometimes hit a discussion about someone’s work and have totally missed the posting and sometimes never find it. The student work page of this blog is jammed with stuff and is so over powering I gave up. Sometimes when I have an hour or so I check in but I am way behind.

So even though I miss some stuff on this section with posted work I am catching much more than through the student work page. Plus, I really like the discussions that are going on. Different little pods of people talking on different subjects all on the same page. You catch the thread that interests you and it works.

Lee

yes LEE.. please do… bring the old ( me ) back…!
thats what we ALL “need” tonight…
( but, what i was saying though.. was based on Sean’s hypothetical
“vacation” in china )…
i later met the “real” Sean… !!! he really lives or lived in china…
he is a REAL STORYTELLER of the best kind…)…
this is part of why PROUDLY i host and post his comments from
motherfucking China… its a sign of brotherhood and mutual respect.
when we said goodbye in C/VILLE’S airport… we cried like two
little bitches… tell you that for shure…

ok… let me roll one more!

Panos,

it would be an alternative….why not? People can still show work here but I would love to be able to have a place where the work is displayed in a more logical way.

did i say “rattling”… instead of “ruffling”…?????
sorry…

I am thinking…..

Lee

LEE

Tender, vulnerable, poignant, truthful. Those are just a few of the words that come to mind as I looked at your essay three times. Such beautiful work, not just “work” but such a beautiful life you are choosing to lead and to share with us. As others have said, you are a true storyteller. I look forward to seeing more. I want to meet ALL the bachelors and see how your meetings with them unfolded…

May the healing continue.

love & peace
Patricia

LEE…

now you have confused me…again!!

the student work page rarely has additions…only after one of my workshops and then the student slide show for the week is posted under “movies”…

are you talking about all the links?? that is just the place where everyone can post their link…mostly for my use only…but, of course, anyone can check it out…

here is just for the assignments going on and whatever anyone wants to show…

this forum is quite a bit like one of my workshops…things look chaotic at some point, and then it all comes together in the end…

i am personally reviewing all the assignments going on….i know who is doing what….as i have announced several times, this will all be posted in one nice clean clear way as soon as all of the editing is done…

once all the editing is done (for those who need it) , then all of this work, plus some of the work from the links, will be presented to the jury of EPF for consideration for grants…

or am i confused about your confusion???

cheers, hugs, david

BOB’s “BONES”

first, I really like the “tactile” quality of your B&W.

Your images brought back the memories of my trips to museums as a school child, the strange cold feeling that every time caught me, for some moments, thinking that what I was seeing/touching/walking-on once was alive or inhabitated; thinking about all the people that once were there (living, using, wearing, collecting those things) and now they are simply gone; just feeling the breath of time…

ABELE :)))

thanks…that’s it, about the breath, the physical, tactile sense of memory and time and that it lives in us as physically as sensation and that others, even those disconnected to us, live in us too…but, im getting ahead of myself…hopefully this will be felt when the stuff gets shown…

thanks so much

b

audrey

YOU ARE A STAR – thanks for the photos
so funny to see the DAH masks.. and PEP looks like an inspiring place.
great that you were able to see the exhibitions before it became to busy.. i love the spaces.. walls where the frames are hung.
beatiful place.

bob

well done on bones.. looks good.

anton..

envous.. very envious.. i wish i had though sooner and i´d be on that train.. next year..

david mc
patricia
gui

i´m going to be lecturing on narrative work tomorrow and will be showing your work, along with others.. i will collect useful comment, compliments and generally let you know how yoru work is helping the students see diffrent themes, styles and the choices available to them for this months documentary project.

badass all..
onward

all

without wanting to bore you about the editing – my negatives are FINALLY well on their way from N.gland to norskwayland.. YES
within 4 weeks i will again have access to all of my archive and will be scanning a bunch of new stuff for the decade book project.. soon as i have the ´new´old work to show i shall do..
i´m looking forward to it so much now.. i can recommend emigrating with nothing but a laptop and a bag of clothes.. and 8 months or so with no more than that is great fun.. however, getting things back again, after such a good time-span to reorganize my head and perspective, is a really welcome thing.

new eyes..

DAVID B

box of negatives will arrive the same day as your son… i’m sure… a great day that will be…

LEE….

you are doing some very interesting work following your divorce…and , of course, i recognize the “ken and barbie” photograph…

i hope we will have some time to personally get together and edit…miraculously i will be able to do “one on one” editing with most of the photographers here who are doing assignments..in Perpignan alone i will be able to work with at least 6 or 7 of the photographers working now…

will you be anywhere near New York in september??? it would be terrific if we could meet in person…

i was also very curious about something else…you and i have worked together three times in workshops as i recall…isn’t that correct??? each time you had a totally different motive…the last time in New York , you started with dealing with divorce and then changed to the “neighborhood” piece (which from a photographic standpoint really stands out among all of your work)…is there not a way for you to put the “neighborhood” look into the bachelor work?? you almost seem like two different photographers….when i saw “neighborhood” i thought “ok now, Lee is really on to it”…yet, i liked the personal aspect of dealing with your split up and divorce…

i guess what i am trying to say is that i like the “look” and “feel” of “neighborhood”, but i like the subject of “bachelors”…can the twain meet???

cheers, david

DAVID B

As I told you by email I feel incredibly honored to be one of the featured photographers in your class on Narrative Photography. You might want to recheck my project page, though, as I just added more photos early this morning Eastern US time. I’m now up to 26 images and am calling it “I See And Am Seen.”

http://www.pbase.com/windchimewalker/daily_life

ALL

Of course I invite everyone to visit my updated project and give feedback. Your views are always helpful.

Patricia

DAVID :)))

i think i put up 7 preview pics…and yes, i have 40…that i like….working to send you the edit by Sunday night (will send to ny then)…i can make small prints to bring to show you in ny, yes, absolutely…the 7 photos at flick are just a tease…there are “better” pics, but the whole essay, i hope, will be stronger than what you’ve jsut seen :))))…i hope, as i told you before, to get people really excited…i wish i should post more, but i made myself a promise not to show any more until you’ve had a chance to look at my edit (when you return from Perp)…

as for ny….we wanted originally the come in sept but since Labor day didnt work, we schedule a weekend camping trip for the weekend of the 12th (me marina and dima, first family vacation together in 16 months)…we’d thought about coming Octob 10th, but if it’s better for you we can shoot for sept 27th-3rd…either way, i will call u mid week next week (didnt want to call u last weekend, after i left the message, ’cause i knew you were with your mom)…but, let’s chat on the phone and nail it down…either way: do not worry: WE WILL BE THERE SOON! :))))…now, it’s only a question of date…

as for the chaos, no worries, david, i dont get nervous about any of that shit…my biggest concern for last 2 months has been only the writing and the photos and making something that i am proud of, that’s all i care about: to make something strong for my dad and dima and for you folks to enjoy it…at this point im very proud and excited and hope u will be too…

but you will have first peak, the first person, after Marina and Dima…waiting for u when u return…

and as for talking with other bloggers, if they’re in town, would be wonderful…(i know some of the NY crowd will be)…so, dont worry, i’ll do whatever you all need to take the blog to the “next level” …whatever you need me to do, i’ll do it…you’ve got my commitment :))))

ok, gotta run…

let me know when you return from Perp, and i’ll call u…

hugs and love from marina
b

DAH

in all new european time.. good to have you over here
i hope that ´living in the future..` (by 8 hours at least) is being kind to you.

patricia

thats very good of you.. kind enough for you to allow me to show your work and having the courage to say YES.

i think the biggest benefit the students will get from the work is that it perfectly illustrates that the SUBJECTS we all photograph are not as limited as we see in the every day media..
so long as they make an effort to photograph thoroughly.. choose a story they care about.. edit well.. have the confidence to show and the ears to hear feedback then they cannot go wrong.

i feel with them (with myself sometimes) that the only work which much of the photographic community respect involves harder edged topics and people in tough or controversial situations..
what your work, and gui and david mc´s illustrates as a trio is that a passion for photo-creating and a keen eye.. perseverance and patience.. hard work and intelligent thought.. can make any subject appealing and can produce inspiring snaps.

thanks again patricia.. you´re a wee star and its great to see you on the boards again..

anton

no joy with flights for saturday and teaching tomorrow.
yer on yer own :ø)

david b

damn… but okay, next year is another chance for sure. nothing lost

’bout the chaos: i’m at that point in my life now that i’m trying to create it (for my photography); trying to generate the momentum and “bring the chaos” into it, because i feel (from starting a company couple of years ago) that this is the way to achieve a dream: dive in, go for it, swim for your life like you’re almost drowning, fear of death and liking the journey at the same time

oh and then the relief afterwards when you see the bigger picture and you feel it has not been in vain… one of the best feelings out there… you’ve actually created something “real” out of thin air

come to think of it: the chaos, the seemingly not knowing where we’re going, the energy, the sparks of it becoming “real”… all EXACTLY the same in DAH house here…

http://www.jesusfloresfotos.com

marcin..
from the site
“All persons can express their and spread their thoughts freely”

jesus is doing some good work.. JESUS LIVES
thanks for sharing.

AUDREY,

thanks so much for the photos!! now I’m more impatient to meet you all!!

It took me some more time than expected to drive up to Perpignan and just arrived… but we all are going to meet tonight. Add two more to the crew!!

DAH,

Sometimes I am confused as to why I confuse you so much. I’ll leave that comment as is.

Neighborhoods in Brooklyn and the bachelors…

Bob’s comments about distance and bringing the photo within a photo to the other work…

Neighborhoods came about just as I was about to roll down the other side of the giant iceberg called your workshop. Letting go and seeing what was there for me to see. The interaction I had with each of the individuals in the neighborhood series was the breaking down of the barrier I had put up since the whole disintegration of my marriage began. Afraid to get too close, to interact with my subjects. I spent 4 days shooting prior to that day and could not get close enough to capture anything of the people that were there for me to capture.

With the personal demons piece, I pulled photos from self-portraits, the work in Brooklyn, and my bachelor series. To try and even explain how it all came together in my head would be very “confusing” and we don’t want that.

I leave for the mainland Sept 18 and tentatively plan to return October 30. I might possibly could come into NYC end of September. Inshallah. All this talk about the personal demons piece has done exactly what I was hoping–started me seeing many more possibilities. I have a feeling I will be seeing you in NYC David. Are you ready?

Thanks to all for your wonderful comments. Patricia, good to see you here again. David B, #15 is the one that took the longest as I had to reshoot it and get the help of a friend.

Interesting thing happened during this whole process. My hard drive failed on my Mac tower, the backup drive with the photos from the Dominican Republic during the time I found out about my husband’s girlfriends (actually taking a photo of one sitting on his lap) and one of him in a bar, died and cannot be retrieved and the backup cds had gone missing. The cds are still missing and I kept thinking I could not do the essay without those two photos. I wonder if the cds will show up now.

Audrey–touching work of your parents. I love the way you reflected each one with the mirrored image. They brought up the pain I feel on occasion when I think of my father and how distant our relationship was yet so connected.

I love this site just like it is, even if I get confused on occasion.

Lee

Lee,

Audrey’s snaps from PEP are here:

http://web.me.com/audreybardou/AB/visa.html#40

Her post with the link is on this page…

good light,
A.

Lee, glad to help. I like your project, btw…the images that have stuck with me are of you with the other photos…very telling…(to me) saying “this is part of me…close to me….important to me…. but maybe not quite yet part of real me….”

This is, of course, my own interpretation of what I take away, and may not even be close to what you are trying to say….

Andrew, what do we have of other’s work but our own interpretation? Whatever we put out there will probably never be viewed as we see it but through the viewer’s filters. You are close. They are separate, that life viewed in the photos on the headboard and the independent me that has to go out on my own now because there is no other choice. And I like my independence more and more. I think that is why I was finally able to get the work together and posted–because I am letting go of what was so important for so, so long.

Do you have a web page? Would love to see a link with your name so I could check it out. Probably have seen it but would love a refresher.

Out the door for acupuncture–needles…..

Lee

my head hurts not because i am confused but because Akaky is now making sense to me …

DAVID B.

Make Patricia and David words my words too.
it is such honor !
Let us know the results, comments, ideas
it will be great !
hugs

Bob
Very good work man !
Intense grain, according to Panos… almost rain :)
I am happy when it rains… so I like it !
I want to see more !

Panos !

Too clean for me !!! even for what I feel from bob’s work ! Try this one :)

GUI…
you are killing me right now…
JESUS AND MARY CHAIN…
oh my god… check this out…

Back in Athens.. Greece.. 1992…
there was a little bar called “Decadance”….
i was 22… dj at that bar… and assistant for the president of photojournalist guild of Athens… Mr. Zisis Aggelopoulos
… also student at the time ( electrical engineering )…
my dream and focus at the time was music…
there was only ONE music magazine back then in town..
and i wanted to be featured there so bad….
guess what… JESUS AND MARY CHAIN were in town .. performing,
that night….
that particular night… “the band” stopped by “our” bar,
for a drink… that was it… we became friends for the “night”.,.
my photos were real…. and that was my 1st self-assigned ,
assignment for the mag of my dreams ( back then…!! )
Literally “Jesus & Mary Chain ” gave me my first paycheck …
Later , ( for about 8 years ) this place “Decadance”..
became the “CBGB” of athens… Nick Cave visited the place numerous, numerous times- almost a local…,
Mark E. smith from THE FALL… i can go on and on…
i was doing photos , so close… that nobody else could…
because i was drinking with them..wasting the whole night
… back in the day.. Decadance was closing at around 5am or 6am
on the weekends…

you brought me back in time GUI…

yeah ! I want to see these Jesus pics !!
out for one or five beers… now !
see you later

GUI,
its all film… not scanned…
honestly… I WOULD NEVER POST MY OLD PHOTOS.. anywhere…
its my personal “Prague”…. you know… i’m waiting, waiting, waiting,
for the “right” moment that probably will never come…
… bare with me…
almost 8 months ago… i was sitting in a bar in Venice, buying
“Scottie, The King Of All Homeless”, one drink after the other…
There was a guy sitting in a table very close to me…
speaking a dutch accent that was soooo familiar in my ears…
i couldnt tell in the beginning, but 7 drinks later…
my memory came back… He was the manager of a european band called “DEUS”
ANTWERP BELGIUM…
check this out:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jVuZ1sh3I40

i will never forget that night back in Athens 1994 or ’95 ???
after the DEUS concert , we ( me and my girlfriend Lena – driving her own car… we picked up, half of the band… heading towards the hill were the “Decadance” bar was located…
one of the member asked ( requested ) for a particular drug…
I remember i said , something like… “I’m sorry, i dont have That..
but how about some Heroin?…. They freaked out…
i laughed my heart out…
Anyways… that night i met their “manager”, once again… we talked about that incident and other shit.. who cares!!!

in
Venice Beach… almost 13-14 years later… go figure !!!!!

peace

well.. to clear up the confusion…
about access… my girlfriend Lena , back in the time 15 years ago was one of the editors of that mag… she had a scheduled interview,
with them… she convinced them to choose that particular bar..
it wasn’t really me… to be honest , she did all the work…
i just snapped some photos…
so the idea of my day was:
ACCESS… ” to gain access , you have to do, what you have to do…!

“It’s too bad she won’t live! But then again, who does?” ;))

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JkbcQ1QmuLo&feature=related

… fuck L.A…!
Bob , thank you .

well, Bob… i’m taking “this song” from you…
and i’m out…
peace

Justin,
Sympathy to you and your family –such a loss–but may your memories of your mother be a strength and joy.

Lee,
I agree with many of the comments regarding your essay. Creative and compelling. I particularly liked self-portrait number 5 in the series.

BOB…

yes, sometime in the sept 27 – oct 3 time frame would work or right thereafter as well…the 27-3 week will of course have me being totally dedicated to the students i have that week, but i think you know that and would be flexible etc etc ….also know you would love to see the whole thing, final show, final fiesta….anyway, let’s do chat by phone as soon as return to New York on monday…

AKAKY…

is there really anything better than a Three Musketeers??? of course, to see a movie i could not be without my Good & Plenties or Mild Duds or both…”well balanced diet” was not in my lexicon at the time, although i think my love of broccoli may have saved me…

LEE…

am i ready?? of course not….but i have rolled along this far, so i will “stay the course” (sorry, did not mean to quote W)..

ALL…

i met with all of the Perpignan “our gang” tonight to have a meeting to see if we could meet to have a serious meeting…i am not sure whose idea it was to have this sidewalk cafe meeting right smack in the center of 3,333 fellow party mood photo fest participants, but so it was…

my oh my, i became a photographer so i would never have to go to meetings, so this forum tribe has caused some philosophical backfire..

needless to say the meeting to set up the meeting caused some members of this forum to consume rather large amounts of “spirits” all in the name of brotherhood/sisterhood and a powerful all consuming desire to soak up the moment..

even lurkers and innocent bystanders and various members of MY PAST got caught up in the whirlwind of participation to the point where i decided it wise to leave the “campfire” with my ex-girlfriend and make a move for a potentially romantic walk down by the river…

just as our conversation was turning to “where do we go from here?”, her friend Albertina (yes, all those cool pictures from Rajisthan)and hotel mate was seen walking alone down a dark street in exactly the opposite direction from their hotel (she is directionally challenged) and chivalry got the best of me and i hailed a cab and took them both “home”…

why else would i be back in my room ALONE and writing to you right now????

to be continued….

cheers, david

“Fragile status as a gentleman”

Good one SIDNEY.
There is NO gentleman whose status is not fragile, right? :))

TO ALL- (PERPIGNAN IMPRESSIONS)

As I was meant to be in a family vacations in the South of France, I have had to leave PERPIGNAN prematurely… I found out that I came way too early (arrived Sunday evening) when most are acrtually getting there mid-week so I have had to leave Wednesday night when the parties were just starting…so unfortunately, I will miss the larger reunion on Sunday… so be it! But really really, I can hardly complain as I had still a marvellous time there. First, I had the priviledge really to spend a lot of time with AUDREY, a very talented photographer as you have all seen but on top such a kind generous human being…. I have been her official translator over there which was my pleasure and she thanked me with a magnificent print from her work on Rosa the prostitute which I love (the work I mean of course!!!!! :))) AUDREY, you are a very special person with a BIG HEART!!!!

I also met and had dinner with the now world known mask producer of DAH i.e LASSAL and even met the boyfriend and dog so we met the whole package which is certainly a very nice package…. whoever meets LASSAL would probably wish she did not have a boyfriend :):):):) but the sad thing is that she has a very nice boyfriend and even worse they seem in love… It was great meeting you LASSAL and spending the evening with you, AUDREY….

I also met more briefly GINA, SEAN and LAURA…had great lunch with PIERRE-YVES, had a tchat with LANCE so all in all….met many even if I had to leave prematuraly…. I cannot believe though that I missed you CHARLIE…I could not check my mails (no personal computer)…I hope we do get a chance to meet sometimes so that we can take this beer together….

Now, the highlight of it all was of course to see DAVID once more… Poor David got here on Wednesday jet-lagged but still offered to Audrey and I to meet at his hotel to go over both of our edits…Was funny…given I spent a lot of time with Audrey I had a chance to go over 80 pictures with her and I sort of had done my own edit and I was very curious to see if DAVID would end up in the same place…. I had split Audrey’s work into two parts really and the first thing DAVID did was to say it really would be better if it was one story…. (I thought shit!!!!!) When I attended David’s workhop, this has always been my favourite moment, watching him editing…and once more loved it (I think that LASSAL and LAURA also enjoyed as they were both watching)… Reassuringly, he kept many of the pictures I had selected but David, as he often rightly does, went primarily for the more universal symbolic moments as opposed to more personal ones that may mean a lot for Audrey but may not be easily recognizable by all. David was very generous with his time, always checking what Audrey felt, if he was missing a picture etc…so generous with his time that our whole time slot ended with us having no time left to go over my own boxing work (David had to go for dinner with folks at 7pm)…but when I say David is generous with his time, he really truly is…. we agreed to regroup at 10.30 at his hotel and came back ad we stayed until midnight with him, Audrey and Lance who joined!!!! Always a bit more tense initially when it is your work on the table but we had a great session… Hard to capture in a few sentences the numerous advices I received…but maybe worth sharing some… First, believe it or not, I had got my prints virtually earlier that afternoon and this was the first time I looked at them all on the same table….we should all do this all the time systematically…sort of becomes obvious this way what does not belong, what is stronger, what might be repetitive… we also had a lot of discussion about what might be the title of the book (or work) as a title is critical and you need to have a powerful relevant yet intriguing title…we brainstormed a few but I really need to keep thinking… Following his advice, I will also interview the kids, the boxers to get a few of their own lines/ quotes and hopefully, this will become more evident and this jewel that I am looking for will surface…. the final point…we both recognized that there is no way we could have had that session on line….when I first got some feedback on line from David I understood that I should get rid of some shots that might have been repetitive so I started to edit out etc…when for the first time David was able to look at the whole thing at the same table, he felt that actually in this case, the best might be to have some repetition and focus on powerful action portraits rather than try to do a whole story on boxing and show training, gym, locker room etc. Might still keep a few if I really want to but all in all, action portraits will be what the focus will be…. Unfortunately, I cannot show the edit right this minute as I am still away from home (will be back in the US next week) but will when I can…. Overall, David was very positive so I was thrilled and once more did learn a ton as we talked all sorts of things from book editing to format etc etc… DAVID, I just wanted to thank you once more! I know how difficult it is when you get somewhere and have so many friends to see so AUDREY and I were even more appreciative of having this quality session together. Wished I could have stayed one more day to see the edit from Lance!

THANK YOU THAK YOU DAVID! and it was great meeting you all in Perpignan.

Cheers,

Eric

Eric,
you translated splendidly the progress of the revision with David, it was great meeting you Eric, and what a pleasure to discuss photography with you!

I forgot to speak to you about Pierre-Yves, It is a young photographer he has a hallucinating photographic culture, he always makes me discover a new photographer, a new agency which I did not know…

such a perfect day :

AUDREY,

Have no time now to write but if you still read this and plan to come to perpignan this afternoon, we will meet at Cafe le Poste at 3’00. Hope to see you there!

ERIC,

Last night I finally got to know some of the people from this blog. Amazing atmosphere, as if we already knew each other! Lassal, Laura, Aga, Gina, Lance, Sean, James, Neil, Pierre-Yves…. so great to meet you all!! And meeting DAH again in the middle of this crew just touching…

Have no time now. Literally running, but hope to write about this Perpignan impressions soon.

Cheers!!

thank you very much…

ANYONE

know who took the images (at Perp) in the right hand corner of this photo? The black and whites..

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dyPBuGgzcss/SMBy2TygTOI/AAAAAAAAAtI/T2Ymd5WEMHk/s1600-h/Visa+032.jpg

(from the blog http://www.pacoelvira.com/)

bob

sent you mail

To me, the question is not how do “women” think but rather how does THIS woman think. The best way to find out is to ask her. And the only way to learn the answer is to listen, REALLY listen to her answer.

Patricia

bob

congratulations.. bladerunner.. you have won a shiney sticker of a dinosaur (i’m giving them to students this week for fun)..
one of my fav quotes from the improvised passage at the end of the film.. i always think of it when i read peoples memories.. and Panos memories have a way of tripping me back as well.

particia

very good.
very.

herve

very good
very

i wonder if the female and male are split apart far too often in the old cliche.. never be able to understand each other.
by nature and nuture we are divided, although i still believe we are more similar than different.. respect.. thats all i think.. for all.

another quote – i forget the source..
‘there is a greater difference between Einstein and the average human being than there is between the average human being and a chimpanzee.’
(paraphrased.. no idea where it’s from or why it stuck in my head… or why i threw it into the mix just then.)

P, DMC, A, and G

lessons done..
will write more later.. thankyou for now.. brilliant.. all your work helped in very different ways.. we spent maybe 15 mins talking about each of the narratives… at the beginning of class they were quiet about their own idea’s.. after-wards they were buzzing with them.

actually – will email you in a while with more.. i have to run to the shop to get some beer now (they only sell it in shops here until 8pm on a friday?!)

peRp people.

excellent.
enjoy.

I think we’ve all been to parties and other social gatherings where we’ve wondered why we bothered to show up at all. Maybe the host owed you a dinner, maybe your wife is making you go, maybe your employer requires you to be there in order to make an important customer happy, but no matter why you showed up, you’re here, and here is a disaster of Titanic sized proportions and you would willingly cut off your left arm for an excuse to get out of this hellhole right now. This sort of thing happens to us all on occasion; just a part of the strange lottery of life, but it’s worse when you’re the host of this ten ton stone balloon and you know everyone in the place is blaming you for that awkward and uncomfortable feeling we all get when we know the party’s heading south and we wish we were, too.

Part of your problem may be that you do not have any interesting conversation pieces in your home. A good conversation piece gets people talking, gets them comparing notes about the piece on your coffee table and others pieces they’ve seen at other houses and on that trip to Europe a few years back with your Aunt Myrtle when she went looking for the ladies room in the Louvre after getting up close and personal with Mona Lisa, took a left when she should have taken a right, and wound up on a Bulgarian army rifle range being shot at by a squad of angry nearsighted kids who couldn’t get out of the draft and were glad to take their frustrations out on someone. American relations with Bulgaria have improved considerably since that trip and will go on improving, just as long as Aunt Myrtle stays home with her cats. But with so many different people interested in so many different things the perplexed host may find themselves in a bit of a quandary about what sort of conversation piece to get since very few conversation pieces appeal to everyone.

The host in this case should remember that the one thing that always excites interest is people, especially famous people. The famous are different than you or me, F. Scott Fitzgerald once famously didn’t say, to which Ernest Hemingway didn’t reply, yes, they have better press agents. But the chances of getting an actual, real life famous person to come to your party are usually pretty poor, all told, and even if they did come, you want everyone at your party to talk about what a wonderful party this is, not about whether some celebrity shows up and sucks all the oxygen out of the room. Let’s face it, celebrities come and they go; I mean, when was the last time you heard anything about Miss America 1938 or Ilona Massey or John Nance Garner or even Norma Shearer? The trick is to get someone whose name has stood the test of time but who won’t monopolize the conversation to the point where the party suffers. Not an easy thing to do, as I’m sure you would agree, but recently two books have come out that show the inexperienced host how to do such a thing and make your parties the envy of your entire neighborhood. Everyone who is anyone on this planet has heard of Albert Einstein and any party he attends becomes an immediate success since how everyone will want to know how you got the premier genius of the 20th century to come to your party while others will want to discuss the theory of relativity and how much they don’t understand it, having flunked high school physics after having spent most of the year checking out the cheerleader sitting four desks up from them, and still others will want to discuss Einstein’s role, and possible culpability, in the development of the atomic bomb, which is what your party would have been if Albert hadn’t shown up on time.

Now we all know, and if you didn’t I’m telling you now, that Albert Einstein died in 1955, so how can you get him to come to a social gathering some fifty years too late for him to bring a loaf of bread or some raspberry Danish or maybe a nice bottle of wine; this is something my mother always goes on about. Never go to a party with one arm as long as the other, she says, but that’s probably some sort of weird Irish cultural thing. In any case, Einstein may not be able to come because of his unfortunate death fifty years ago, but that does not stop his brain from being the life of any party it goes to. Yes, indeed, as the two books I mentioned above make very clear, Einstein’s brain is still available, floating in formaldehyde in some Tupperware containers somewhere in New Jersey. Of course, you can’t actually buy Einstein’s brain; the owner is not interested in selling, and who would be, given such a treasure, but you can rent the brain, I hear, for two hundred dollars a night, half price for bar mitzvahs, and isn’t a minimal investment of two hundred dollars a small price to pay for scoring the social success of the year?

And Einstein is not the only head in the ring, not at all; there are plenty of miscellaneous body parts floating around out there to liven up even the deadest party, body parts of every size and description, body parts for every occasion. Franz Josef Haydn’s head, for example, is back with the rest of the great composer, the head finally reuniting with the rest of the body in 1954 after a century and a half apart, but for the artistically inclined Francisco de Goya’s head is still wandering the highways and the byways at this time, and for the politically minded, I think Oliver Cromwell is still headless, said head being in the possession of a family that has (or had; the situation is unclear) old Ollie’s noggin in a velvet lined box, all set and ready to transform the dullest dinner party into a tremendous success.

For those who enjoy a bit of dirt with their conversation pieces, and you know who you are, the ambitious host has a choice between Napoleon Bonaparte and Grigorii Rasputin. Napoleon was the bigger man historically; a string of battlefield successes made his name as one of the great military leaders of history, and his revision of French law, codified as the Code Napoleon, remains the basis of French civil law to this day, marking him as one of the great statesmen of the nineteenth century as well. Rasputin, on the other hand, was an unkempt pseudomonk who conned his way into Tsar Nicholas II’s household with his ability to calm Nicholas’ hemophiliac son, the crown prince Alexis, and soothe the empress Alexandra’s hysteria about her son’s condition. Unlike Napoleon, Rasputin survives in history as something of a perpetual dirty joke, something on the order of the second Clinton administration or the riper years of the Stuart Restoration. So you can imagine how a dull party can perk right up when you produce, from its very own shoebox, the reason why Rasputin was so sought out by society women during the first decade of the twentieth century, an object described by one witness as something akin to a long, blackened, overripe banana. By contrast, and there is a big contrast here indeed, when Napoleon’s came up for auction at Sotheby’s in London a few years ago the catalog described it as tiny and looking remarkably like a shriveled seahorse. Given the relative historical importance of these two men, I think it is safe to say that this is one of those instances when size really does not matter.

To maximize the effect of your conversation piece on your guests, you could try to work it into every aspect of the evening, although I’d leave Einstein’s brains off the dinner table lest someone mistake them for the cauliflower. You must remember to treat the conversation piece with respect; in all likelihood you are just borrowing it for the evening and while you obviously can’t return it to the original owner, as your piece is a scaled down version of the original owner, you should return it to the current owner in as close to original condition as you can get it without actually administering CPR, which will not be helpful at this time. This is only good manners, after all, and if you show people that they can’t trust you to be responsible with their property they will stop loaning it to you, and then you’ll wind up showing your guests slides of your trip to the Grand Canyon, and they will leave your home convinced that you are a dullard, a bore, a dolt, and maybe even psychotic as well. I mean, who is that interested in the Grand Canyon, really? It’s a ditch, a big ditch, to be sure, and a marvel of nature, but when you boil it down to its essence, a ditch is a ditch.

Audrey – Do you have more pictures for us? We would love you for them.

Akaky – My, my… Now I know what’s missing from the living room.

David – I will explain women (what I know) if you will explain men. We will need wine… rivers of wine.

Thanks, Akaky. That’s what I thought. Just checking.

Welcome, dear Jean. Please post your thoughts,feelings and links to your photos. We are not all “photojournalists”–I for one would never describe myself that way–and we are all ages. I’m glad you met David and now feel comfortable letting us hear from you. I’d LOVE to see your dance photos!!!

Patricia

As to the question of men and women, that’s an easy one:

we’re both the same…..only different

running
hugs
bob

Reid goes camping, and the summer comes undone:

http://www.humanfiles.com/slideshows/laborday08/laborday08.htm

As someone there said, NO LOVE NO PHOTOGRAPHY
——————
:-)….Ah oui, c’ etait moi! Quelle memoire, Jean… La mienne aussi!

I must say that david’s happenstance serendipities that make life just great is quite close to that of traveling (without a camera).

But photography for me betters travel by introducing the idea of revisiting, the “visiting” becoming actually searching which, if done to its fullest, happens often at some apex where the inner and the outer, the personal and the public meet.

Joseph Campbell called these “blissful moments”, which for being unplanned, seemingly based on chance, could only happen on the very road you traced for yourself, that very journey that is yours and none others, provided you have not let society tell you to get serious and get back in the ranks.

audrey!

am running for the train now… if i miss you tonight, i will meet you tomorrow at 10.30 in café de la poste! yes, i certainly want to visit exhibitions as well…

looking forward to meet you and ‘the crew’ :))))

love

robert.

i can’t speak about s. america since i was not there long enough to need to consider this..
when i lived in india i tried to send a couple of things.. tape recordings of monks life and a roll of film, and they didn’t arrive.
so.
i found a good lab in a city 20 miles from where i was and i used to get the film developed there. they did a good job and the negs then went between the pages of a hardback book until the journey back to the N-gland.
the worry i had about keeping exposed film was the heat and humidity.. i thought better to get them dev-ed than not..
hope thats some help.

have a great trip.. eyes wide open along with heart.. you’ll get some superb work done i’m sure.
safe travels.

bowen: always sound advice; thank you for the encouragement as well. when traveling in india i also did as you with some film processed and put between the pages of a good book. however this time i must be careful and devise a strategy for safe keeping.

hot chip: Colours

Thank you Audrey! It was great to meet all of you live.
Of course it was great and o useful to assist to the editing David did of Audrey work.
And there was another one about Rodeo yesterday afternoon on the small plastic table of Cafè de la poste. Right in the middle of the square with people passing by and stopping to see what was happening.
I’ve got some picture of the evening meeting of 4 and there are a lot of things to tell from the yesterday afternoon but I’m running right now to a lecture and… may be it would be easy with a I-phone.
I wait to meet all the Perpignan crew at the final party at midnight.

Hi,
I just wanted to comment as I haven’t before and yet I’m out here in Perpignan having the pleasure of meeting so many people.

And I believe the Rodeo photos Yan is refering to were Lance’s. It was incredibably insightful to see them and hear David’s comments.

DAVID M

just waking up here with a cup of tea and your slideshow of Reid..

I REALLY enjoyed this! Critically from my more normal view, I’ll admit I thought some of it was redundant and some images not needed because they weren’t as strong for me as others, but emotionally and creatively, I just loved the whole thing. The crickets, the music, Reids very knowing eyes, him having this experience of camping both from in and out of the tent, the dogs, I love the dogs..the simplicity of the shots, the flowers, it just makes perfect sense to me. I only miss being there in person to snap some beans and give Reid a squeeze and go for a long, cold swim before summers end..gorgeous!

Audrey / Erica

Thanks! Trust me, I’m not loosing track of what David wants us to achieve with editing—but I’ve been thinking about this lately—who are the tight edits for? On this forum, their usually for other photographers, who look at so many images that we really only want to get to the good stuff.

The last couple of things I’ve posted aren’t really edits for photographers—Reid camping is more of a “parents” edit, because what parent doesn’t want to see or show lots of pics of their child! And the Moving Wall was more of a community edit—because I most definitely wouldn’t show an editor 125 shots of coverage, but to people who missed the ceremony, the slideshow has been a big help.

One more note, I’m usually compelled to really fill a song completely, so sometimes I end up torn between showing lots of images, or letting fewer be timed longer.

Anyway, thanks for looking!

KELLY, you’re welcome, always willing to oblige.

PS. Bob’s bit about men and women being the same only different: this is the sort of thing some guys say in order to get laid. And remember, never underestimate the raw sexual power of a woman with her own washer and dryer.

yo, Dad Akaky, i dont need to get laid amigo….;))))))…that bit wasnt about to impress the ladies, but was supposed to be a joke….see, even ya’ll get like toooooooo damn serious when it comes to women and men…

that’s a line from a movie, involving some pretty funny men….research dad ;))))

:)))))
running
b

Papa Sidney –

Thank you for kind words. If you send me an email (kellylynnjames@gmail.com), I can try to help you work out how to make these other slideshows play. With all of the new and nuanced technologies out there it is hard to find something universally compatible and even harder to test for all possible scenarios.

Like you, I’ve started to hear music or sound with most images.. at least in my head. I have project ideas in my mind that start with a song. But I do like to also see the pictures alone as well. Then the music that fits can play in my head. Maybe it’s immersion v.s. imagination? I enjoy both.

DAH

the people at time, natgeo and the times must have a helluva lot of spare time..
okay.. i want to start posting new work.. thing is that i’m just ‘mumbling’ along at the moment while teaching and need to get some plans down, as well as the ‘decade’ book.
what i’m shooting daily is far too loose and so
next round of ‘assignments’ – please count me in..

audrey..

superb to see the little gathering..
thanks.

DMC

camping.. superb.. who’s the music by?
you do have a great eye for snaps.. the garage sale project really connected with the students and they ‘got it’ straight away.. recession.. narrative.. and then sometimes, like with the music festival and now with camping, you turn out a short project with real ease.. nice one.

NYTimes editors read this blog? All right! Will Shortz, you DA MAN! Two big thumbs up for you, guy!

If photo editors are readers of this forum they should paid more attention to works Of Aga Luczakowska.
I have feelings, she will be great photojournalist if she will have more opportunities for good work.
(For NatGeo!?)
Someone have to give her some big chance. She will proof her talent.

I tell you I have feeling and if I have feeling mostly I’m not wrong.
peace

That song is “Green Arrow” by Yo La Tengo.

Don’t tell anyone this, but as long as I’m not profiting, not charging admission to my slideshows, and really creating programs for personal use, I’m going to keep using music that fits the mood I’m trying to convey.

My best advice would be to seek out local musicians who would be thrilled with the publicity—but music I purchase is really meant to be enjoyed. Avoid major labels. They aren’t producing anything I would be interested in anyway.

I did contact a record label recently about using a song, and I had a frank conversation with my contact. He wasn’t going to be quoted as giving this as an official position, but he said if you’re not profiting off a song, then go ahead and use it, but the fact that I had asked meant that he had to contact the artist.

If the Republican party isn’t going to be sued by Heart for the use of “Barracuda,” but just politely asked to refrain from using it, then I doubt a record label is going to come after me. I would be thrilled, however, if Yo La Tengo got in touch with me and asked to remove their song. Now I expect to hear from them by the end of the day.

I do try to maintain a relationship with music (symbiontic, perhaps?) in that when bands pass through, I’ll go out and shoot them and forward shots for web promotional use. Is that enough?

Now on to my opinions about the edit……..

yo la tengo..
their version of nuclear war is astonishing..

DAVID, AUDREY, ERIC… ALL…

DAVID…The Digital Railroad link for sharing work sounds like a GREAT, GREAT idea. Is this only for the few “official” assignments you gave out or for all of us to post “self” assigned work? I have some new work I am excited about sharing…DR would make it much easier for me to do so. I’m sure this is true for others as well.

Thanks all for the updates. It is great to read about whose work you are seeing and enjoying. Please tell more about this…

I heard Munem Wasif from Bangladesh has won an award there. Anyone see his work?

I will check out the work ERIC recommended asap. Thanks.

DAVID (alan harvey), DAVID (mcgowan), SIDNEY, ERICA, ANTON (from your email), …ALL:

A quick word or two about the discussion generated by David McG’s story about his family camping and the attending comments….since Im right now in the middle (for 2 days) of working on the Bones work, i wanted to take a quick time out (my head is scrambling with thoughts) about this TIGHT/LOOSE EDITING discussion…

I should confess, up front (in case y’all havent guessed by now, though I know Herve knows this about me ;)) ), I feel a kinship with iconclasts…because, in truth, each of us came to photography (i trust) without attendant mentors or teachers, let alone Great photographers who’ve achieved a life’s body of work that is strong and lyrical and iconic (as has David) and John (vink) who participate here. Nor were most of us (nor all those who preceeded us) blessed with workshops or conversations with working photographers who’d succeeded in making their life’s work sing and to achieving a certain level of professional (business) success. When i decided to start photographing instead of painting, i didnt know a single photographer except the one’s who work at a local newspaper I had written for and there the idea of photography was simpler: workmanship, strong, compelling simple pics without all the grandiosity and presumption that plaques most of our work, most obviously the pretentiousness and grandiose aspirations of my own. I learned photography in a closet, in the dark, alone: i photographed alot and whatever caught my eye, i also read as many photography books as i could (the entire spectrum) and i thought alot, thought alot about what others had done, what i wanted to do. but above all, i spent time looking at things, people and places and objects…grass, stones, chairs, faces…all this on a tiny island (marco island) in a tiny dot of life in a small corner of s.w.florida. i’d decided on photography during my last year in LA, when lots of my paintings were destroyed and i wanted something else….but, in florida, i didnt know anyone…there was no Lighstalkers, no David Alan Harvey blog, in fact, people thought i was the weird “art guy” on the island…then i met marina and she, at the same time, had become interested in photography too and we explored alone and together….no one looked at a single photograph i made for the first 4 years of my “serious” attempts, except for marina and my father, who thought they were too “arty” too “abstract” too “pretentious”….he loved Arbus above all else…though he didnt know her last work in NJ, until i showed it too him…so, when i began to make “series” of Stories (self-portrait, chairs, stones, time, soccer, my nephew, florida light) in florida and started showing them to “real” photographer (at a russian photosight…photosight.ru), i still had to fight for what i believed in about my work and the way i thought about stories….

you see, i think like this: i think in terms of collision…as i’ve written here before, i’ve never thought, not ever, of single photographs…i think in terms of stories…pictures together, complementing, contrasting to reach toward something wider place, the gestalt of things…maybe this comes from being a writer, a poet, maybe it comes from the way i use to paint, maybe it comes from the idea that I have never made, up to this point, a single photograph that i was proud of, that i thought to myself: great photograph bob. Maybe, it’s impossible, for someone like me because i think in terms of story, narrative, …notes, minor and major…pictures that gather strength because of how they play against each other, rather than shooting 1 single pics…

and then there is this: i am a very deliberate photographer. yea, i am loose, and increasingly i rarely look through the view finder any more (yes, i still do, but i prefer the rush of now) even with rangefinders, i want the act to be physical and i dont want the images to be too “composed” (although, as you’ll see with bones, there are lots of those pics too, like the shot of my son in silhouette with giant fish dinosaurs in the background), i want them broken and surprising…but, i think, think a lot and a long time before i work. I dont carry my camera everyday, and i do often go through long periods of time not photographing…but, i think obessively, nearly every minute, about images, about stories, about what i’ve shot and what i will shoot. i walk, walk alot and I run and im always always Looking and alsways Listening to things around me…it seems this is as important in my own editing process…

Working with David has taught me alot. When i did the EPF last year, i constrained myself to only 2 folls of film, shot over only 2 weeks, 2 cameras, only night: 1 35mm and 1 lomo. when i finished i had 10 photos that i loved, and david wanted an essay with 20 pictures, so i game him a story of 20 pictures…a story that i was proud of that included many abstract photographs, opening with a photograph in a dark room of a student photographing me, and in the photo the only thing viewable is the flash: here was the 1st photograph of my EPF:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2833296375/sizes/l/

as a photograph it is not terribly interesting of course, but it is very important as the first image in the story…like birth canal…im shooting another photographer shooting, and it ties in with the last image of the story….anyway, i sent 20 pictures to last year, feeling so-so about it…removing some of the pictures that meant the most to me, like abstract stuff….

there is a series in the story of 5 photographs that move from Abstraction of a face (the main girl in my story) to nearly total abstraction (including photos of her hair and her feet)…for example, one of the face photos

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2833305459/sizes/l/

anyway, after David extended the EPF to include 35 photos, i sent him 15 more images…probably 5 too many…as a story, i had, 30 strong images and 5 shit images…but i thought, fuck it, whatever…to my surprise, David had chosen the work as a winner and then edited the 35 pictures down to 7 (which you see on the front page)…later for LOOK3 i made a very tight edit (leaving out all my favorite abstract photos, including ones David has never seen) to 10 photos….I was “happy” with the edit for Look3…but one of the photos was removed, this one:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2834130892/sizes/l/

i dont know why, but i’ve always liked it, maybe it reminds me of the time i spent (2 weeks) with my students…maybe it’s because it reminds me of something Moriyama once wrote about making pictures, maybe i just like it cause someone it reminds me of my life…i dont know…but David edited it out of both the final EPF and the Look3 edit….and as I wrote before here, I understand why, completely understand why…he removed it because given the limitation of space/time (EPF only 5-7 images and look only 9 images) that photograph DOES NOT WORK with the other images choosen, not at all…and so DAvid’s eye, his authority as an Editor works and i understood this and did not take it personally, not at all…

for my exhibition last year, i showed the entire suite of images (many of which david never saw, like this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2834166404/sizes/l/

which shows a double exposure photo, on the right a photo of one of my photos that one of the students had uploaded to her IPOD….etc…

the entire Story And Our Memories Brief as PHotos, contains 40 images and was well received/reviewed when i showed it…sold 2 pictures, but most people didn’t understand it, except for the box i put the pictures in and some of the more “recognizable” pictures…and what to do about this?….by the way, i’ve made a box for david of the entire series, which i’d wanted to give him on this trip to NY, but since he wants to see bones, the box will have to wait….

anyway, what i mean by all this rambling…for me, an Edit must be 2 things:

1) true to the vision of the photographer

2) appropriate for the media/audience.

In other words, no fucking way could i show 40 photos of bones as a slide show with other photographers, it is just too long, too self-direct. when editing, it’s important to understand what is the venue, what is the time, the desire of the audience….i have maybe 60 images from bones that i think “work” as a story together…not all of them are interesting as photographs, not at all, not all of them are “keepers” as stand-alones, but they collide and make sense…

so how do i think about Tight Editing…actually, i take it VERY SERIOUS. By TIGHT, i think people misunderstand Harvey. It isn’t (at least not for me) about cutting fat (in terms of number of images) but in terms of images that each one adds to the experience of the essay, the story. ALL PICTURES CAN BE REDUCED. Fuck, look at Koudelka. His book on ’68 is brilliant and there are so so so many images there that are worth a FINAL ESSAY and yet he did not include them in the famous 10/15 images…this was his aesthetic, his choice, and i respect it immensely….as a buddhist (i know that sounds obnoxious) i respect and admire it even more…

but, i think the key for editing is to be able to let go of images not care about them, to make something sing the way you do, you wish.

I think David’s (Harvey) eye is impeccable (and i’ve written about that many times here). All of his “edits” i’ve seen make total sense and do nothing but ENHANCE the work of the members. Sometimes i worry, however, that people take the Tight Edit as meaning that photographers should stay away from “loose”. By loose i mean, the “arbitrary” image, the contradiction. I believe in it, the not-so obvious, the contrary, the image because of it’s out-of-sequence aspect makes more poetic sense than a logical edit. One of the most important books of photography (for me) in my life is Moriyama’s Goodbye Photography….and it’s an example of what Im suggesting…internal logic born from the idea of collision, the beginning and ending of the roll of film, the dream logic of life…

how does one arrive at that in an edit?…i think it’s difficult…the best edit comes from a conversation…a conversation between the photographer and herself and maybe with another person they trust and respect. I am lucky, i have Marina. I am also looking forward to talking with David for just this reason…

Photographer to Photographer…to discuss what i hope to achieve from this work, what sings to me about my Bones story, what I love and what I am confused about…a struggle…

I do not want David to edit my work, I want instead to have a conversation with him, because I respect him so much as a photographer and as a person with a knowing and no-bullshit sensibility….i may not agree with him (there have been times when we disagree) but it give me insight too….

A tight edit for me means, as it does in writing a poem, to make each photograph (as each word) COUNT FOR SOMETHING…it might not mean each photo is a masterpiece, but that the accumulation of the photographs stays larger, deeper, more urgently than the single power of any 1 image…

that is how i edit, how i think…

with all this long diatribe in mind, i should tell you all that David has changed me (and im pretty stubborn when it comes to ideas about my work) about thinking:

I often now thing: is this single photograph strong or worthy enough….

a difficult challenge…

but we are fit for it…and i trust that this is what David means when he challenges each of you, each of us to be hard on our edits…

hugs, now i must get back to work

back to bones
running
b

for example, here is another image from BONES OF TIME…it is a photograph of a mother, a muslim mom, waling through the museum (i have just finished talking with her and her children)….a photo which is a mess, who is going to “read it”…who is going to keep it in a final edit and yet it’s important to me…speak to me, just as what she had i had just finished talking about (how children grow up so fast)…i will never see this woman again, though i remember her, i told her about my wife and son…and who will keep this image in a final edit….but it is important to me…

how do we balance our egos with the images that convey what we feel….

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2833447817/sizes/l/

or this photograph….a young child, asian girl, who is crying, telling her father “i am tired of this place…”…who is ever gonna keep images like this in place…

but they mean alot to me…

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2833484225/sizes/l/

by the way, sorry for using flickr…the images that I am sending David are large (21×14), and so on flick, the resolution looks crappy..but its a field of intense grain…

b

or this….

Mastodon Skull…to go with the pictures of the Cow skull i took….

sorry im sharing….just been locked up with so many pictures…

fucking bones, memory…tears…

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2833508667/sizes/l/

ok, last one ;)))….until David realease the series…

just to show, they’re not all grain abstractions :))))

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2834411268/sizes/l/

last image (promise)

this image (with the photo i previewed of my son in silhouette) was made specifically with David Alan Harvey in mind…

while i was shooting with my 35 mm, my son picked up my Holga to see what it looked like through the viewfinder…he’s always asking me “what to do you think about when you shoot or look through these things”…

at that moment, Dima with the camera, the Tyranosaurus in the back, at that moment, i saw 2 people:

my son….and David Alan Harvey as a child, a young boy…

so, i’ve told David privately that this is one of the images for him, that i thought about him while shooting…

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2834466662/sizes/l/

ok, disappearing…i promise…

b

DISAPPEARING BOB

loving these..no words, just love..

editing for me has mainly been for magazines – to tight deadline, print ready and a selection of around 30 (10% of those shot), from which 5 or 10 winners will be chosen and illustrate the article.. dealing with features photography, that is.

tight deadlines have normally dictated that the minimum of fuss be made.. i’d get one chance to edit upon opening the files on computer.. another later in the afternoon when that would be cut.. and in the morning send what can be picked from those.

the choices of photos has become quite clear in my mind over the years.. there will be a bunch which i know the client will like and a bunch which i know i like and they are ordered, although in most clients cases that would have no bearing on how the photos were used.
there are many, many photos which never made it to scanning stage or the magazine simply because i knew they would not get used.. and without the time to deal with scanning for pleasure, it is these photos i am now looking for back in my neg files for ‘decade’..

so in terms of work for magazines.. the kind of magazines i have worked.. it has been all about delivery on time and consistent quality of vision.. less perhaps about artistic vision and narrative / editing.

when i first edited for exhibition in 1997 to get from maybe 2 or 3000 photos shot over 6 years down to 32 (the number of frames i had managed to get through sponsorship) – it took me 6 months, used black and white and colour photos and was a real pleasure.

it was much more intense than editing for magazines.. much more seemed to rest on the few hundred who might visit the show than the many millions who have seen my photos in magazines. the pressure bought about a much more intelligent approach to editing which i was then able to take back to magazine work.. and improve..

with magazines and the book i now want to edit the photos come from the unpublished majority.. they are, in fact, the result of my initial motivation which was to photograph 10 years in the life of electronic music… and not to photograph ten year for the magazine industry and media workers.

now the book – i am taking a year and have 6 months to go. i have found that the day long process used for magazines has simply been drawn out.. it is the same process.. looking for the same links in photos.. the narrative of shapes or colours.. of subject matter or moments caught..
it is only a pleasure because i have given myself so much time.. been realistic about the time it’s going to take.

what i would say about editing is this – it takes as long as it takes and it needs a great deal of playing about before reaching a satisfactory result which pleases us and makes us proud to show our piers..

singer jamie lidell once asked me during a shoot,
‘so do you guys just take loads of pictures in the hope you’ll get something which works?’
to which i said
‘kind of.. it’s like sticking loads of notes together until something works as a tune..’

when i make up songs on my guitar it’s often a suprise that the sounds coming out of it seem so right.. the way i have found to play a tune is to play what needs to go next, rather than try to force the song along.. the music demands it’s own way and i just have to deliver that. the feeling – the tune – is in me already and so it cannot be anything but my tune.. it is me.. the same goes for photography.
what i notice, and what i click away at, are notes.. and when it comes to the edit they will demand an order which i just have to recognize..

on music and photography.. photographing in difficult conditions, with some fantastically compelling music to carry along the atmosphere is a sheer delight.. an absolute pleasure, despite the elbows.. the cig burns in clothes, getting hit.. sweating.. steamed up lens in a crowded basement club.. exhaustion..
despite it all – photographing celebration and having the backdrop of a good soundtrack is one of the greatest pleasures ..

it has often had me thinking.. both photography and music hit us viscerally through our senses.. directly.. our eyes and ears are in tune with our brain to produce feelings unlike words, which need interpretation. the relationship between music and photography is like that between food and sex.. they are family.. utterly complimentary while both being able to stand alone.. sensory

bands and photographers even tout their wares in the same manor.. looking for a deal.. organizing that release.. putting on shows..

when the tibetan work was eventually shown in london.. after 6 years shooting.. 4 months gaining sponsorship and press followed by 6 more editing and printing.. the last thought i had was to add recordings of monks chanting puja.. and it made the show.. a final tweek which really worked.. music to guide the viewer rather than words of fact abotu the village.

DAH

Thinking about experimenting the very first time side of the life, trough photography eyes, I keep asking myself if should I be there if a have no camera on my neck ? Yes, it could happen but probably not, since I discoverd myself as a photographer, I discovered too that if try to see or do this things as the first time even if it isn’t really the first time It helps me to move forward, to see something different each time. So, It may help the audience to feel something “special” at my work, more than if I get bored. Sometimes I failed. Sometimes not. But it’s helpful !

About the Chaos…
These improvement for the community sounds perfect !
although I like this chaos style. But it should help a lot for us, for you and for everyone we are waiting for see the works coming in… I am very glad to be a little part of this !
by the way… I keep confused about those assignments, so i did mine (Carmen) for myself as I told you… You will give more assignments ? Please count me in !

cheers

erica –

when do we get a taster from you? hope the scanning is proving to allay your fears..

bobus

i see you, and however different what you and i might achieve as an end result i respect what you’re showing and like it.. hope you find my snaps half as interesting..

david mc

superb.. lucky man.. i don’t think i ever caught them.. although the sun ra arkestra.. man.. they came down off the stage and played it amongst the crowd.. LARGE

ahh yes..
gui – david mc – patricia – audrey..
i will send you an email with how the class panned out.. it was great.. superb.

this i’ll do tomorrow though.. since it is 2am here in norway and i’ve a beautiful woman who’s belly hugs our boy sleeping peacefully with a warm heart for me..

so i’m gonna brush my teeth.

Jean

Body dancing images can be great ! Show us !
This is a strong and impressive play by Adilson Nascimento… not my own project, and not what I want to work for… but I was just his photographer for a day and enjoyed a lot be part of this documentation.
take a look
http://www.galembeck.com.br/naitan2

DAVID B

I wouldn’t say I have had any real fear at all..but certainly in my posts/verbal reflections on the process there are plenty of musings on the reality of the challenges I have met along the road. Bottom line for me at this point is because I tend to know what I am after and see it in my mind’s eyes (intentionally eyes plural) ahead of time, there is a fair bit of room for disappointment, though I enjoy pleasant surprises as much as the next person and accept them readily. (yes please!)

The scanning, which continues to happen now, is not comforting me exactly. Because I don’t contact anything but do scan everything, I have to look at a lot of mediocre images and some downright awful ones. It can be frustrating, boring, etc.. Though I am actually quite good at reading negatives for content and quality and interest, I require myself to look at a positive of every image I take, to help me learn and understand my shortcomings.

Hopefully, the sense of joy will come when all the preview scanning is done and I can go back thru everything and see how many possible keepers I have. Right now I have no real idea..I don’t separate the wheat from the chaffe until the end. Sometimes at night as I am falling asleep I try to recall the keepers, but I usually get stuck on thinking about a specific image instead of trying to count them.

Not sure why I work this way, as I know in loose terms what is a definite maybe once I see it for the first time, often from the negative. I guess I am sort of a ritualistic gal..just like I wouldn’t look at any of the 4x5s until they were mostly all shot. Stupid, maybe..hard to know. I like to think it allowed me to just see with fewer preconceptions.

In any case, will hopefully show DAH something in a couple of weeks..so after that. Thanks for asking :)

Patricia – you make-a me blush!

One thing I’ve got to admit—the cicadas sound is actually part of that song, so I can’t take credit for that recording—although I did make some nature recordings, this song seemed to have that covered.

It’s interesting that such a simple, just-happened-to-be-out-there “project” has gotten such a positive response. Every piece should be so easy. I hope it’s evidence to editors that we can turn out a strong series with just a couple days of shooting.

Don’t worry Patricia—I’ll keep ’em coming!

another dinosaur… ;)))

for patricia and erica:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2835126310/sizes/o/

b

Now that I’ve caught up–god, you miss a day around here and it can take you an hour or more to read all the comments before you even get to the links!–I want to thank everyone for being such articulate, original and fascinating thinkers. You, my friends, are why I keep coming back. These discussions give me chill bumps.

I can’t help but think we are writing a new chapter of photographic history with every image and word posted here. DAH’s blog is today’s gathering place for those who are serious about photography. As we look back on folks like Henri Cartier-Bresson, Minor White, Dorothea Lange and Walker Evans, will the photographers who come after us be looking at the work of Bob Black, Erica McDonald, David Bowen and Audrey Bardou to learn from them? And those are just a few of the photographers we see here whom I believe are going to be remembered for years to come.

Yes, history is being written on this blog and each of us is adding our unique vision and voice. What a privilege it is to be part of this!

Patricia

last one…..

my son, Patricia….next to the head of an Brontosaurus :))

http://www.flickr.com/photos/73821181@N00/2834353397/sizes/o/

running to bed…long day of nothing but photography shit …

hugs
b

Hello to all…

Sidney, I am sorry that you cannot read photos, I can send them to you by e-mail?

Cathy, I loved the work of Munem Wasif here is its link
http://www.agencevu.com/photographers/photographer.php?id=232
He had the price of the Young Reporter of the City of Perpignan for his work ” Bangladesh, on the thread ” and I think that he deserves much more…

Marcin, I agree with you, I also likes the work of Aga http://www.agaluczakowska.com/

Jean, I would also like to see your work on dance, and aillez not no shame, look at my last images of Perpignan, we are all there to teach!

Kind regards, audrey

DAVID M…

the Look3 EPF slide shows were done with the music/picture combo exactly as each photographer gave it to us …

yes, less than perfect …”photographer control” is not always a good idea!!

we also were given a rigid time frame at Look3 (and at the last minute), so there was no way to build a slide show in the most perfect manner “from scratch”….

if we are given “another chance” at Look3 , we will set up a production schedule for each photographer well in advance of “show time”..

cheers, david

ALL…

i actually agree with everything i have read here about slide shows in general….it definitely depends on both the audience and the time frame…

i do know this after having seen literally hundreds of photographer produced shows….a show rarely looks strong with a viewing of more than 60 pictures…4-7 seconds per picture seems to be best…20 mins overall seems to be the best max attention span for most shows…10 mins for one subject seems to be the max time most audiences will not shuffle in their seats….

the longest i will do a show for my own work is 7 minutes…

even for 20 years worth of work…that very same work hanging on the wall might have 50 pictures, but in a slide show would look awkward in my opinion..

in other words, i edit much much tighter for a slide show than i do for an exhibit or book…Div Soul has 100 pictures in the book…40-60 in the average exhibit….55 pictures for a 7 minute show…

cheers, david

David,

my question is about editing for the EPF grant…what is best? A loose edit which shows the variety and depth of the body of work or a tight edit? With a loose edit the EPF judges would be able to see a body of work that though not edited as tight as possible would nonetheless show a variety of photos that could be edited in a variety of ways. A tight edit would show less variety and depth but would maybe wow on the sequencing, etc.

All…

I have finally caught up with all these comments.So many things to read, so many things to look up, especially with my comprehending skills.

Thanks for all the photo updates from Perpignan. I really wish I could be there with you all.

Patricia..
Thank you for your lovely congrats. I know I am getting a special treatment with my first book and I am very honored. The whole forum had been of so much help for me. I wish you luck on your works too. *Hugs*

David McG..
I can’t seem to open up your camping photos. I have downloaded adobe flash and all but It’s still not playing. Of course my limited computer skills are of no help. I would really really like to see your photos that everyone seems to love. Any advice?

Bob..
I was looking forward to seeing your photos for a looooooong time and I have FINAlLY seen your work with the bones!!!! Your photos made me think of the traditional Korean masks. so still so calm yet hiding so much emotions underneath. The anger, joy, sadness, fear and pensiveness. It seemed like these emotions were slowly rising through the stillness of your mask.
These are very thoughtful and deep phtos as I have expected. Wish I could see more of your photos. Thank you for sharing :)

AUDREY

Merci bien, mais n’enquietez pas! Enfin, avec le “browser” nouvel de Firefox, je pus voir cette photos. J’ai eu beaucoup de plaisir à les voir. Excusez-moi de vous avoir dérangê.

DAVID

Thanks for the excellent advice and your accumulated experience and wisdom on slide shows. My own experience with slide shows was previously mostly in a teaching context in geography… and even there, where the information content and discussion are more important than aesthetic qualities, 40 to 50 slides max (and that’s for an hour-long class) was always a good benchmark… The reason the slideshows I am putting together now are slightly longer, and the transition-dissolve time much shorter (1-2 seconds rather than the 4-7 seconds you recommend) is that in some cases I am simulating “motion” in short-burst sequences rather than allowing each slide to stand on its own. So far the people I have shown these to have al been positive and no one has fidgeted or complained about the length.. but I will try to pare them down further. In any kind of performance… music, dance, slide shows, movies, speeches, lectures… a little too short is always far, far preferable to even just a tiny bit too long…

KYUNGHEE LEE

I was finally able to see David McGowan’s camping trip with the latest Quicktime version and Firefox 2. There is a Korean language version of the new Firefox 3 (Mac or Windows) for download here:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html

but 3 is too new for my computer, so I used the older version, Firefox 2, which you can also download in Korean language version here:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html

Both versions are free and install very easily.
한번 좀 해 보십시요.

Off the subject, sort of, but …….

Andrew Zuckerman’s “Wisdom” is such a wonderfully simple idea, clear, clean, like the portraits … i really, really love, love this … be sure to view “how it was made” …

http://www.wisdombook.org/

tom

BOB:

Please take a look a this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30292798@N06/

It was my most personal proyect.

Jorge

AUDREY…

Thanks for posting the link to Munem Wasif. I LOVE his work.
I am glad you were able to see his show in Perpignan and that he was awarded this prize. Hopefully it will bring him more recognition.

oh and… where can we see more photographs, PLEASE? you must understand – despite having lived amongst the satmar for a few years, this is an experience i’ll never get to have, except through your photography.

Oh, and FotoMagico combined with Garage Band and some digital sound recording device—powerful combination!!

“Dancing over the grave…”

Ah Marcin… YOU always have a way to force me out of my silence …
… and simply agree with you…
Dancing over the grave…
( i will try to send you scanner info, as soon as i get hold of RYAN..
( still sunday here you know…;-)))) )

TOM HYDE

Thanks for the link! Very interesting website, interesting mix of video and still photography. Fascinating to see the set-up and take-down… not quite as elaborate as a movie shoot, or a car company ad campaign, but certainly getting there! For what my humble opinion is worth, it’s quite opposite the one-on-one chat or fly-on-the-wall and relatively unobtrusive style of portrait photography of one guy or gal with a small camera interacting with the subject in what I would call a ‘normal’ situation, which is what I would do. But it also strikes me that the list of ‘wise’ people… (and I found it a rather strange list.. some I would definitely include, some I definitely wouldn’t, and a few wild cards… but conspicuously devoid of anyone with an East or Southeast Asian background)… are for the most part celebrities who are used to wide media exposure, so maybe rather than being a highly invasive style of photography, this much fol-de-rol and equipment are actually necessary to stroke their egos enough to get them to cooperate… for them, this is in fact ‘normal’ (do I sound cynical?). But I’m not really making a value judgment… rather, one of style I guess. I prefer minimalist approaches… one photographer with one camera, a human interaction not premised on the idea that getting a ‘good’ photograph is the raison d’etre for the encounter, natural lighting or maybe a simple off-camera flash. And for me personally, the environments and contexts people live and work in are a very vital part of who they are… often far more telling than whatever they have to say about themselves. I found the video shot around the process much more interesting than the still portraits themselves. Nevertheless, this is an interesting approach, I concede, and has value… but the carbon-footprint of this project I find a little too rich for my blood. It’ll sure be interesting to compare and contrast this to David’s forthcoming ‘Family Drive’ project. Anyway, thanks a lot for the stimulating lead!

Hi all!

I was i Visa yesterday; so sorry i miss some of you who were there, next year i hope!!!
I enjoyed this edition, i hope that those who were not here are going to come next year.

As Eric I also see Paolo Pellegrin for a book-signing, so i have ‘As I was dying’ signed. Very happy!!! I love his work. Someone here speaks of unfinished pictures, and it is something that sounds important to me; Eric already spoke of the exhibition on Iraki diaspora, and really, the photos where impressive.

PATRICIA
thank you very much for your kind words! I’m working on a website, i’ll show my dance photos soon.

DAVID MC GOWAN
love your photos of ‘Reid goes camping, and the summer comes undone’. It smells like childhood…really good for the soul. Love the guitar soundtrack also.

HERVE
‘NO LOVE, NO PHOTOGRAPHY’, je le pensais depuis longtemps, et le voir dire par quelqu’un d’autre m’a marqué…

Sometimes i get sentences there and write it on a paper. Like roadsigns, to go in the good path.

Yes, Guy Le Querrec speaks of Elephant’s Eye, each time you see something, seeing it differently.Another concept of trip. Is this what you mean?
I like your quote about ‘blissful moments’. Sometimes i feels like it, and never have a camera in these moments…

GUI
Thanks for the link to your pictures; liked it. But I prefer your ballet work – I like the non-dancing pictures, like flying moments.

STEPHANIE S.
No matter, as I said above, it’ll come soon!

AUDREY
No shame!!! Thanks for your pictures of Perpignan.
I saw your work in Réponses Photos magazine, and i liked it a lot (mainly the photo with only a leg in the street).

OK, friends, please NO MORE software suggestions…at least for awhile!

I’ve just bought & downloaded FotoMagick 2 Pro. A couple weeks ago I bought Alien Skin Exposure 2. Now that purchase ended up costing me a BUNDLE because I found that my 6 1/2 year old iBook’s system was too obsolete to accommodate it. That led to my buying a brand new MacBookPro with a 15″ screen and 4 GB memory!!! I know it was past time for me to do this as my laptop is my only computer and the iBook was really showing signs of age, but it was a pricey move. BTW I absolutely ADORE the MacBookPro–it’s SO fast and the resolution & colors of photos are stunning!

But enough already. I can’t afford any more suggested purchases!!!

Patricia

JORGE ! :))))

THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE GORGEOUS PICS…DREAM MUSEUM INDEED :)))))…

means alot to me at this particular moment…that’s some some extraordinary place…a lost archive…(love the elephant swallowing the bird and the horse cloven with bone and skin!)…feeding me more thoughts…i love the richness of the grays and ash-tinted blacks….

i appreciate it more than i can express at the moment…you’ve helped me and fed me at a moment when im tired and overwhelmed and almost sick to death of bones…want to burn it all…but that’s my love-hate nature with photography…

you pics have helped me remember my childhood, which is what i seemed to have forgotten over the last 2 weeks of scanning and editing and insane, wordy, regurgitating nonsense…

thank u amigo….

no, gone until after the 15th….

adios all

b

Sidney, you are such a loveably gruff bear aren’t you my friend? ;-) No, not cynical, critical.

Sidney, I understand all you say and agree with much … it is a big footprint, more commercial style, a “production,” and i too much prefer the minimalist approach, more lyrical, storytelling etc … BUT what struck me the most was the simplicity of the idea and the clean simplicity of the final product, despite the bigger production in the making of it. I know I rarely start with such a clear concept, i make things way too difficult and try to accomplish too much when the core concept paired down is simplicity itself and the communication of it can be as well, and is, in fact, often much more powerful as a result. Knowing this and doing this are two different things.

I found this to be true as well in the design and construction of my house which has a few nods to the simplicity of traditional Japanese architecture. My next house, if there ever is to be one, will have more Eastern influence because I appreciate quality over quantity, simplicity over the ornate, style from function, and the merging of interior and exterior space. The making of such a house can however be incredibly more complex, the craftsmanship on a higher order, and the design a long process … the complexity is often hidden in the walls and the process. Less is more and more is less, if done well. A recurrent theme here as well.

I do hope to finish this house first someday, though, as does my wife ;-)

I agree, it will be interesting to look at this again after seeing David’s work. I suspect it may seem awfully spare but, again, the simplicity of it is compelling to me and, perhaps more importantly, a good lesson.

tom :))

ok… ALL…
IM READY… NEW WORK…
LETS GO :…

” “A DAY IN THE LIFE OF A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN (freida part2)”

Drinking from the “Fountain” , part 2

“Sometimes, the simplest , “easiest”????!!!, everyday little “things”, like waking up,

or checking your breasts in the early morning sun, or sleeping naked… or whatever makes anyone feel free… ! this is whats happening over here…! Meeting a beautiful woman is not that hard… but, making a beautiful woman feel safe and let you share her most, “simple” moments… for me at least is precious… i hope it is for you too… enjoy…

Once more… here is my “private” life..

… take it a peek in my world…”…

Do not worry… its an invitation…

All the photos below are dedicated to Freida… and her beauty… and her kindness… and her hospitality… and her love…

1) ” IN THE BEGINNING , THERE WAS DARKNESS…! ”

2) ” Then , there was the LIGHT…!!!”

3) ” Playful before SUNSET ”

4) Exhausted , before Sunset

5) Falling asleep ( before sunset )

6) Beautiful woman , sleeping ( before sunset )

7) morning awakening

8) morning on the porch

9) Beautiful woman, enjoying an early morning

http://web.me.com/innerspacecowpanos/LOVE_SITE/Drinking_from_the_Fountain_,_part.htm

sorry about the first broken link!

TOM

I certainly agree that the website itself is a very impressive, spare, ‘clean’ (or ‘slick’?) production… very tight, very professional, very attractive. And the concept itself is clear, focused, laudable. I don’t mean to be an ideologue about this… As you point out, this is rather a commercial style. I guess one could argue that as soon as any one of us picks up a camera and frames a shot, we are manipulating images for the sake of manipulating images, and the idea of ‘just recording’ what is going on is an illusion… it’s all just differences in style… so why am I bothered by the fact that this guy is so deliberately (and skillfully I might add) ‘manufacturing’ an image according to a slick formula, and the subjects are largely willing (and experienced) collaborators in this process… this goes on all the time, it’s how we sell clothing and jewelry, it is what politics has largely become all about these days… and colluding in this process is what journalism has all too often become in recent years, as both you and I have talked about before…
I think there are other ways someone could have approached this without making it into a Vanity Fair fashion shoot. Would the finished product have been as clean, as slick, as ‘seamless’ without all that money, equipment (white ‘seamless’ paper!), and big names behind it? I don’t know… but it might have told us more, it might have been less predictable, it might have opened up new territory instead of reinforcing the iconic status of people who are already icons…

By the way, good luck with your house! Hope to see it sometime.

DANNY

As a tireless on-the-streets peace activist myself from 1989-2007, I know from the inside how it feels to be part of protest demos like the one you photographed at the RNC. You have done a good job of capturing the paradoxical nature of such things, the strong similarities between both “sides.” This shows up most strongly in the shots of gas-masked protesters and police, especially the one where they go head-to-head.

To me the most effective shots are also the most artistically satisfying: the gloved hand holding the flower, and the orange-toned sunset shot of four silhouetted police in the distance. The latter is a stunner! I’m also touched by the young woman who looks like she might cry, and the shot of you in the paddy wagon.

Glad they released you without charges; Amy Goodman of Democracy Now! didn’t fare as well. Sure seems like the St. Paul police were overreacting.

TOM

I thank you for posting the link to “Wisdom.” I watched both the short show and how it was made. As a woman of age myself, it spoke to me. As an artist, I appreciated hearing the director/photographer discuss his aesthetic and philosophical choices. Yes, it is somewhat slick and many of his subjects are well-known figures in today’s world. I still think he is making a contribution, not the least of which is showing respect towards the elders and allowing them to share some of what they have learned in their long lives. In a youth-oriented society, this is no small thing.

Patricia

BUT!

can I say that I still would have wanted a bigger backdrop and a second reflector? Really could have used both things..

Scanning away here, can’t see straight..write something to keep me awake a little longer, please..

down by law is excellent..
watched ‘broken flowers’ last night..
bill murray at his melancholic best..
i think my fav jarmusch film for visual satisfaction is still ‘dead man’..

SIDNEY,

“… but it might have told us more, it might have been less predictable, it might have opened up new territory instead of reinforcing the iconic status of people who are already icons…”

Well put. I started to write that this project was less about photography and more about message but then i realized how idiotic that was :))

“By the way, good luck with your house! Hope to see it sometime.”

Sidney, you will!!! And the house is mostly finished … never, ever move into an unfinished home thinking you’ll do the baseboards, mantle, uhhmmm, a door or two, et al, later!!! Of course, everyone knows this! I’m slowly working my way through a punch list right now. I am a little ashamed i have not made up the freeway to see you this summer as i said i would … i got busy … well, we’re all always busy so that’s a crappy excuse. I just know when we meet you will remind me of a Orrin Pilkey, a somewhat controversial professor friend of mine who is a great critical thinker and tells it like it is … you’d like him. I’ll be up your way before too long if your around ….

PATRICIA,

… and thank you for telling it like it is for you in your own work. No small contribution, or inspiration, there on your part. Glad you liked the link :))

ERICA

I was hoping you would look and comment, and you said what i expected. Please don’t take that the wrong way … i expected your thoughts because your work has so much soul, because your work is so human, just as your set. Just be you. I would have loved to be your assistant for a day in your project, a Staff Helper In Training as it were, a weight for a lightstand, maybe someday.

DANNY

Funny, i posted that link here a little while back when it was just DNC, and anonymous. I agree with Patricia about the more lyrical images. All the work is great PJ and it’s great you mixed it up … the guy with the capitalism tattoo facing down the cops, or is it the other way around, great! Solid work and congrats on getting detained, and released! I’ve only had the honor once, no conviction here either :)) I read two from Democracy Now are facing felony charges … Disturbing, to say the least. Don’t get me started on another constitutional rant here …. it just royally po’s me every time i get questioned now with a camera in public, and that’s just on the damn street … sorry, got started :))

Danny, i know there are a few protesters who make the regular circuit, one event to the next, on the road, some are self-proclaimed anarchists and others not so radical. I wonder what their life is like, i mean, do they go back to waiting tables like Penny Lane?

tom

Thank you Erica

I have one more question; How large 35 photo I can scan on this scanner? with 300 dpi? how to calculate this 4800 x 9600 dpi for 35 films in flatbed scanner?

Marcin, here’s a link to a review comparing the Epson V750 to the Nikon 9000:

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/interactive/Epson%20V750/page_5.htm

This scanner also allows for wet-mounting of film:

http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Reviews/interactive/Epson%20V750/page_7.htm

Hi all,

Yesterday, I had the great pleasure to meet Anton, Yan and his girlfriend, Neil, James, Pierre-Yves, Sean some seconds, Ana and her boyfriend, Laura (who is in photo in the top of David’s blog, I love her work, and David!

Yan, our meeting was too short, I hope that we shall see each other very soon!
Anton, Neil and James, I loved our after noon, and I think that we realized a big work!! We thought of you all here, you will see…
Pierre-Yves, in very soon on Paris!
Perpignan Crew, it was a pleasure to meet you…

Continuation of my exhibitions, I liked a lot the work of Cédric Gerbehaye http://www.agencevu.com/photographers/photographer.php?id=214
Yuri Kozyrev http://www.noorimages.com/index.php?id=262 Pascal Maitre, I found no link of its work Christian Poveda, a work on the maras of San Salvador http://www.photographie.com/?pubid=104668

And I bought the book of Sergey Maximishin, which I had discovered last year to Visa, I love his work!! A very great photographer still little known http://www.maximishin.com/gallery.php?cat_id=8&action=images&lng=

Still one very thank you David…

Salut Audrey, oui c’était un peu court, dommage, mais on aura certainement l’occasion de se croiser… C’était quand même sympa de mettre un visage sur les différentes personnes, Neil, Pierre-Yves, Anton, etc…

J’ai aussi beaucoup aimé le travail de Cédric Gerbehaye, j’avais découvert son boulot dans un magazine il y a peu…

PERPS PEEPS!

Back in England now… What a fantastic week!! Really great to meet and hang out with (most of) you all. ERIC so sorry our paths didn’t cross. AUDREY I didn’t realize it was you until you had to leave our meeting :( Oh well next time…

…And yes! Definitely a next time! What in inspiration, such great people and work in one beautiful city. Enjoyed thoroughly!!… Man I slept for 12 hours last night!!

So now a bit of a come-down under the gray English skies. Ah well all good things musty come to an end.

Meeting went well I thought. I hope the suggestions and subsequent changes will be in line with the thoughts and wishes those that were unable to be there.

VIVA PERPIGNAN!!

James

CARLOS

I’m afraid I know nothing about where you can get a big print made, but I sure do like this gallery of your photos from Puerto Rico and South America. The mix of close-ups, distance shots, people, places and things really kept my interest. Besides the fact that you have an excellent eye for composition. Terrific work!

Have you considered adding music? I can almost hear it already…

Patricia

I think I should be in perpigan next year.

I think I should be in perpigan next year.
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I’ll second that, the motto now is less words, more photography (more love). Or as Panos would, perhaps, say:

Mojo is motto!

PERPIGAN CREW

How wheelchair accessible is the city, the photographic venues, restaurants, hotels, etc? That means is there even one step going up into the entrances? Are washrooms large enough for a wheelchair? Do the sidewalk curbs have areas where a wheelchair or mobility scooter could travel to get onto the streets? If hotels or galleries have more than one floor, are there elevators and are they large enough for a wheelchair or scooter?

These are all issues I must look at before I think about traveling anywhere…

Patricia

PERP CREW

You can email me any answers to my wheelchair accessibility questions so we won’t use up blog space on it. My email is croneart@comcast.net

Thanks,
Patricia

It was a blast, inspiring, friendly and helpful. Next year, if in doubt, go! GO!

Cheers folks! I look forward to seeing you again.

“Less words, more photography”

Sure, full fat Perpignan edit up at

http://www.iseepeople.co.uk/firemonkey/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=48010

Love love LOVE Neil’s photos of Visa! I have just emailed Jean-Francois Leroy to ask about wheelchair accessibility at Visa 2009. I REALLY want to go!!! But one thing I already know. There will be times when I’ll need 2-3 strong friends to lift me and my scooter up a step or two. Any volunteers??? ;=)

Patricia